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Young voters overwhelmingly say they would support President Biden over former President Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up if the 2024 presidential election were held today, according to a poll released Wednesday.

In the Economist/YouGov poll — conducted via web-based interviews Dec. 16-18 — more than half (53 percent) of registered voters under 30 said they would support Biden, and less than a quarter (24 percent) said they would support Trump.

Another 10 percent said they would support another candidate, 4 percent said they were not sure, and 9 percent said they wouldn’t vote.

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[–] Skua@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There are extremely good reasons for the DNC to go with Biden: he has already beaten Trump once, and incumbents tend to do well

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I understand that he won the popular vote "handily," but he only barely scraped by electorally. We were talking a handful of thousands of votes in key states.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

he has already beaten Trump once

Barely. With the awfulness that was Trump’s presidency still happening. The voters have ridiculously short memories and Biden's main campaign strategy of running as "not the other guy" isn't anywhere near as effective for an incumbent as for a challenger.

By insisting on Biden, the DNC is dramatically increasing the risk of losing the election and thereby making it the last one.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social -5 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Most incumbents don’t consistently back the genocidal actions of Israel.

Little bit different

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Pretty much all presidents have unconditionally supported Israel, actually.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

Including, of course, Biden's predecessor and electoral opponent. Who apparently wants to bar Gazan refugees from entry and conduct ideological screening of immigrants to make sure they're pro-Israel

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Maybe it is time to change that.

Straight talk, the war is coming, and I would rather be the one to fight in it rather than my children.

Let’s just get it done and over with, cut off the festering limb, and start healing.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trump backs Israel too. It's either going to be Biden or Trump. So if that's your criterion, you've already lost.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It doesn’t have to be!

Instead of fighting against those of us who want a different president, why not support us.

You have given up already, so how are you going to judge me if I give up next year?

The primaries are still an option.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Who exactly do you think has a chance at winning the primaries and becoming the nominee assuming Trump is allowed on the ballot? Because as far as I can see, it's Biden or Trump.

Anyone who wanted to compete in the primaries is way too late. But feel free to give me the name of the person you think has a chance and explain why.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I will gladly take literally any bet you like that, barring actual death, Joe Biden will be the DNC nominee. Find an escrow and name whatever bet you like.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Oh I agree, everyone is too scared too run anyone else because “trump”.

God forbid that everyone who is telling me he’s not that bad, and think about trump.

Fuck that, if we run Biden and end up with trump it is purely what we deserve.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Welp, when my daughter is pressed into service as a brood mare for the Theocratic American State after we lost our right to vote in the 2028 election, I’ll be sure to salute you for your heroic refusal to support genocide in Gaza (which was nuked in ‘26 btw)

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

You could join me in fighting against it

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All of them do and have since Israel was established. One party just does it harder than the other while in power.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

So maybe it’s time we change it

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As opposed to his predecessor who literally did a shitton of the work for them and on their behalf?

Do White Leftists just not remember Jerusalem is also their fault for letting Trump Happen or is it just Roe they think they gotta deny deflect and project on?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Do White Leftists just not remember Jerusalem is also their fault for letting Trump Happen

Arrogant centrists put forth a candidate who was so inept that she promoted the candidate that beat her and then didn't campaign in swing states. Don't blame leftists for the mistake you nominated.