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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Loucypher@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.

On the other end forcing myself to be on Fedora allows me to stay on the DNF world that is compatible with Amazon Linux etc (which I use for work), it has updated packages, it is nice and clean…. Argh, don’t know how to decide!

Thoughts?

I am not in the mood for Debian. I like the Mint approach but I am not a fan of slow rolling releases and also would like to keep myself as close as upstream as possible, the Debian version is the only one that seems reliable enough but, again, it is Debian, the packages are “old”. Pop Os and similar are two hops away from upstream and so I’d rather not.

Is Snap really that bad?

Edit: thank you all for sharing your experience !

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[–] TrivialBetaState@sopuli.xyz 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Snap has a locked and proprietary store, even if the client is FOSS. There is no reason to "hate" Ubuntu but there are better choices.

[–] cmeerw@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There is no reason to “hate” Ubuntu but there are better choices.

What are those better choices then (for those who currently use the non-LTS Ubuntu releases and don't want to move to rolling releases or LTS-only releases)?

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You pretty much described Fedora. Non-LTS stable 6-month release cycle with 1 year of support for each release.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Never touching Fedora again. It’s a corporate distribution. As much as people might say otherwise redhat has a lot of pull over it. Look at the lawyers getting involved over pulling out the codecs.

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Your loss, it's a great distribution and if you spent even a couple of minutes in our forums you'd see that the RedHat pull is due to them actually collaborating and being and active part in the community.

[–] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

I was an Ubuntu person for a long time, and when reading criticism about the inability to upgrade versions, I realized that had been my entire experience. I decided to give a rolling release a chance, and it's been amazing.

I use arch(installer)btw. 🐧 AURs are pretty ingenuous, which is just pulling and compiling a git. Maybe a little less secure, but look at what happened to the snap store this year.

If you want to try a rolling release but didn't want to use Arch, there's always Fedora, & OpenSuSE Tumbleweed.

Outside of that, for non Ubuntu distros you could do OpenSuSE regular, or for true LTS use Rocky. Or take the red pill and go with Hannah Montana's Linux.