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“We don’t believe those rights should be subjected to majority vote.”

Conservatives are testing new tactics to keep abortion off the ballot following a series of high-profile defeats.

In Arizona, Florida, Nevada and other states, several anti-abortion groups are buying TV and digital ads, knocking on doors and holding events to persuade people against signing petitions to put the issue before voters in November.

Republicans are also appealing to state courts to keep referendums off the ballot, while GOP lawmakers in states including Missouri and Oklahoma are pushing to raise the threshold for an amendment to pass or to make it to the ballot in the first place.

The emerging strategy aims to prevent abortion rights groups from notching their third, and largest, set of ballot measure victories since Roe v. Wade was overturned. And while conservatives celebrated the fall of Roe for returning the question of abortion rights to the people, these efforts are seen as an implicit admission that anti-abortion groups don’t believe they can win at the ballot box — even in red states — and that the best way to keep restrictions on the procedure is to keep voters from weighing in directly.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 110 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Regardless of the rhetoric, conservatives will always be regressive on women's rights, minority rights, and human rights in general.

Unless you're a wealthy white male (as in Wealthy; rich doesn't cut it), voting republican is against your best interests.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 49 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hell, even if you are wealthy, it's not in your interest. Long term, they are just going to create an environment that is going to be hostile to them just existing. Both the actual environment and society.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The future doesn't exist when you only think 1Q at a time

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is what baffles me about today. Strip our rights, steal our labor, and slap all that wealth within your fortress. Nothing is left to make society work after, so whats the goal? I won't go to work if working gets me nothing. The snake has found its tail.

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

See: absolutely constitutionally legal slavery. You'll work once the pain is bad enough and you're not allowed to die. Also see: neofeudalism.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even yallqueda has a tipping point when they realize they are on the menu. Unless you gradually lower the quality of life and human rights over many generations to normalize it, suddenly locking up the people of today would cause such a shock I'm sure chaos would ensue.

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that what's going on right now? For a certain definition of "gradual". From the Boomers, through Gen X, the Millennials and the Zoomers, slowly stripping away rights, liberties and privileges until everyone's a renter living from penny to penny and absurd wealth like Elon is normalized alongside militarized police, daily school shootings, homelessness and unaffordable healthcare/college. Arrest 10-year-olds and put them in solitary, train them through the prison system to work for absolutely free (see: constitutionally legal slavery). Use "war on crime" and "war on drugs" as an excuse to do mass arrests and put people to work as actual, literal slaves in for-profit prison camps as "punishment" for the most petty and double-standard "crimes". Normalize 24/7 surveillance, so your masters know where you are and what you're doing at all times. Normalize random killings of "suspects". Normalize rigged "elections". Before you know it, suddenly locking up the people of today is not so shocking anymore.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

It is, but look at the timeline. Boomers are still around. Gen X is still around. The scale at which this operation would need to execute is so massive that the elites who planted it wouldn't stand under its shade. Therein lies the problem, the socipaths in charge want everything for themselves. They don't care if their descendants rule the ashes, they want to. This insatiable need, coupled with their narcissistic brain patterns from a life of self-service, and where we are makes sense. We never left the jungle, we just plastered it in concrete.