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    big collage of people captioned, "the only people I wouldn't have minded being billionaires"
    names(and a bit of info, which is not included in the collage) of people in collage(from top left, row-wise):

    • Alexandra Elbakyan, creator of Sci-Hub. perhaps the single-most important person in the scientific community regarding access to research papers.
    • Linus Torvalds, creator of linux kernel and git, courtesy of which we have GNU/Linux.
    • David Revoy, french artist famous for his pepper&carrot, a libre webcomic. inspiration for artists who are into free software movement
    • Richard Stallman, arch-hacker who started it all. founded the GNU project, free software movement, Emacs, GCC, GPL, concept of copyleft, among many other things. champions for free software to this day(is undergoing treatment for cancer at the moment).
    • Jean-Baptiste Kempf, president of VLC media player for 2 decades now
    • Ian Murdock, founder of Debian GNU/Linux and Debian manifesto. died too soon.
    • Alexis Kauffmann, creator of framasoft, a French nonprofit organisation that champions free software. known for providing alternatives to centralised services, notable one being framapad and peertube.
    • Aaron Swartz, a brilliant programmer who created RSS, markdown, creative commons, and is known for his involvement in creation of reddit. he also died too soon.
    • Bram Moolenaar, creator of vim, a charityware.

    on the bottom right is the text reading, "plus the thousands of free software enthusiasts working tirelessly."

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    [–] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I understand your point, but those weren't the words he said. though I don't think that's going to make a difference.

    I like RMS for what he did(and is doing) for the free software community. I can also talk about some uncanny things about Gandhi, but that doesn't make his contribution to the independence movement and his views on nonviolence any less relevant.

    to me, a person should be seen in his entirety. because only fictional characters are without flaws.

    [–] natecox@programming.dev 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    People should indeed be seen in their entirety, the failure of this is why so many people get upset about Stallman.

    The guy is routinely portrayed as a bastion of righteous good will, championing the little guy against the evil corporations. The hero worship is real.

    Some of us see Stallman as a misogynistic asshole who routinely belittles people on mailing lists when they don’t agree with him and publicly defends people who sexually abuse children.

    For some of us, it feels like we need to go out of our way to point this out because we don’t want a guy like that as the public face of something we care about.

    [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    what did ~~it~~ he say about women that makes him a misogynist?

    Edit ok found this

    https://www.arp242.net/rms.html

    a pretty much reasonable, reasoned and merciless account on the figure of rms. I very largely agree with it - spoiler he isn't a misogynist, just a super massive weirdo

    [–] ReCursing@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    just a super massive weirdo

    I once heard him described as "The smartest man to ever throw a tantrum like a 4 year old"

    [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    this thread is terrible... people reporting "I heard of"s as proofs. eh once I read, eeeh once someone told... once sjws bite, there's no chance they let go. and the most important thing is that 99.999999% of the people bad mouthing rms have at best fifth hand reports about him.

    to all the superior etichs white knights: I'm not defending rms.

    I'm very worried about the lynching, with proof based on I once read, i heard of, and also straight out of jealousy and envy.

    rms, like suggested in the article I posted, could very well be a neuro divergent person. I wonder how many of all of these rabid dogs biting at him preach themselves as super supportive, super inclusive, 360° hexa-dimensional full rainbow, but then aren't able to understand the person they have in front of them. let's start by ruining someone. there's always time to say "I was wrong, I'd like to apologize. At the time I didn't know. I vow to be a better person."

    [–] ReCursing@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Wrong person to post this in response to, dude

    [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] ReCursing@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

    Your comment came across as attacking me, and also as a little bit crazed. That said I completely agree with your last sentence, being able to admit you are wrong is a very important skill and one many people could do with learning (I try, I don;t always succeed but I try)

    [–] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I agree with your point in spirit, but again, he didn't say any such thing. I haven't talked to him in person, so, I can only rely on internet to validate/refute those claims.

    he is the public face of free software because others have their own terminologies(e.g.: open source championed by bruce perens and eric raymond), with which the GNU project disagrees.

    [–] natecox@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago

    Here you go, someone has done me the service of clearly laying out the case against Stallman here so that I don’t need to l: https://drewdevault.com/2023/11/25/2023-11-26-RMS-on-sex.html