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AFTD: Open Hand Foundation Provides AFTD $600K for FTD Research

IGN: YouTuber The Completionist Responds to Allegations of 'Charity Fraud' Against Him and Open Hand

Karl Jobst: The Completionist's Response is the Worst Thing Ever

TL;DR: Things look incredibly bad. The completionist has practically admitted to misleading donors, and it seems like he is expecting the IRS will get involved (IGN). It also seems he's threatening legal action for slander (Jobst).

The allegation that the money was not donated seems to be true (up until the AFTD donation in November of 2023) (IGN, AFTD). The Completionist has admitted he "made statements potentially implying donations were made when they had not yet been" (IGN). Karl basically states that it isn't a potential implication, but a direct claim that he made, and is additionally is alleging that the way The Completionist benefits from IndieLand constitutes charity fraud (Jobst).

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[–] brie@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

By that I meant from the perspective that the initial allegations still felt like it could all just be a misunderstanding. Now that it has been donated, it seems to be more a matter of who at Open Hand was actually in the know (since it is possible that Jirard geniunely was being misled himself), and why the money wasn't being donated. The golf tournament stuff definitely feels much more circumstantial since it is based on extrapolation. Overall it does seem like the IRS getting involved is going be the only way definitive evidence of what was actually going on will come out.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm reading between the lines of what Jirard said in his recorded calls and his response video when I say this, but I got the sense he and his family wanted that dollar value to be significantly higher so that they could have more control over what it gets spent on. People are more willing to do what you want them to do when you give them $1M than if you give them $1000. Still not a great reason to hold on to it if so, but hardly fraud.

[–] darkstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago

Jirard's words were unambiguous over the years, though. It was always "we're working with..." or "we've donated to..." and not "we're looking at these charities". I don't know what the rationale for hanging on to that money was, whether it was for the right reasons or not. What I do know is that people were lied to. It doesn't matter if he intended to or not. It's not a good spot to be in, and I can't imagine it gets much better from here. The whole thing felt very much like w crypto scam, except the money was still available, but there was a whole lot of "trust me, bro" and misrepresentation of what was happening behind the scenes.

How many years of research do you need in order to pick the charity or university you want to fund? How many times do you repeat the lies (with numbers!) without even knowing what your own charity is doing? I wouldn't be surprised if there was a different reason they hung on to the money, because this doesn't pass the sniff test. Where there's smoke there's fire.