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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 45 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Let's not, okay? I don't want corpo shit in my free fediverse.

[–] themusicman@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

So join an instance which shares that opinion...

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, only the people I like are allowed to play on this public playground....

But it won't matter once Lemmy brings in instance blocking for users.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's an existing feature of Kbin and it;s quite cool

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah some of the apps I've used have it but can't wait to just have it linked to my account so I don't have to reblock them.

[–] Fitik@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@DmMacniel Just be on instance that is defederated from them, done

@fossilesque

[–] mkhoury@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That doesn't actually fix the issue. If Facebook is trying to set itself up like Chrome with the webplatform, or GTalk with XMPP, then they will drive the feature set of ActivityPub, whether you're federated with them or not.

Hypothetical example:

Want to see this picture/video from someone on Threads? You need Facebook's proprietary picture format, which has DRM baked in it. Even if you don't federate, Mastodon, Lemmy, etc now have to take energy away from their work to adopt the proprietary picture format. It depends on the proportion Threads takes on the network and how they can leverage that position to put pressure.

Threads currently has voice notes. Should all ActivityPub services support that? If so, do we adhere to Threads' standard or not?

[–] damon@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They don’t have to take energy to adopt the format. You do realise that current ActivityPub services don’t support all services and features of the other platforms? You realise a great deal of Fediverse utilises Mastodon’s implementation of AP? So a lot of what people are worried about Threads doing has already been done by Mastodon.

[–] mkhoury@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It was just an example. The same can happen at the Mastodon-level instead of the Fediverse-level. Since there is some desired interop (e.g. between Mastodon and Lemmy), services do influence each other in their feature set.

I'm not sure what you mean by "a lot of what people are worried about Threads doing has already been done by Mastodon". Do you mean that the decisions that Mastodon make influence the rest of the Fediverse? If so, let's make sure we understand the difference here: Threads has a much more hostile disposition. Mastodon seems to have incentives aligned with the rest of the Fediverse services, and probably deserves the benefit of the doubt; Facebook has abused that benefit time and time again.

[–] damon@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

No, I'm talking about making extensions to the protocol that becomes the defacto standard