this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2023
34 points (100.0% liked)

Gaming

30555 readers
196 users here now

From video gaming to card games and stuff in between, if it's gaming you can probably discuss it here!

Please Note: Gaming memes are permitted to be posted on Meme Mondays, but will otherwise be removed in an effort to allow other discussions to take place.

See also Gaming's sister community Tabletop Gaming.


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

This would solve a major issue with SteamOS. The SteamOS itself is immutable/read only as you know. This means, one cannot install or make changes to the core system (it is possible, but that is temporarily until update will revert those changes back). That is why we have the Flatpak support. But many software are not available there (especially CLI tools, if you use them).

This is where the Nix package system comes into play. In short, it allows for installation of programs without touching the immutable part of SteamOS in a controlled and safely manner. These would persist even on SteamOS system updates. For a better explanation, have a look here: https://nixos.org/guides/how-nix-works.html

Valve confirmed: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/7173#issuecomment-1603858003 that Nix package support will be integrated into SteamOS! That's huge. In example I have tools which I cannot distribute easily for Steam Deck users, because Flatpak does not support CLI apps. Nix would solve this issue!

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Biberkopf@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What is the current state on SteamOS as a desktop replacement? My understanding is that the currently downloadable version is only the SteamDeck version and not suitable as a Windows replacement for the desktop.

[–] IronDonkey@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

I don't use it as a desktop replacement (I still have a windows desktop). But I do but default have my deck docked and hooked up to a TV, in desktop mode.

I've installed various flatpack programs, to include discord, chrome, and a couple jetbrains ides for various languages. They work great. I've done a couple non steam games (diablo), with mild annoyance but success in the end.

I have not used any office programs on it (as much as it's cool to like Linux, I just think Microsoft wins by a lot there, and have no desire to get them working on Linux).

The deck itself has some power limitations, but I have no reason to think that they would translate to steam os on a more powerful machine.

So basically, it probably depends on what you want. It's pretty reasonable. Definitely good enough for my secondary computer that blocks ads for videos on my tv. But personally, I still want a windows computer, because windows is the default assumption for most software I use.

[–] marvus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know what you mean by "steamdeck version", but afaik the SteamOS you can download from steam is version 2 which is really old by now while the Steamdeck runs version 3 and is still not available for download outside of it. Mind you it isn't just a major version change but they even changed the linux OS it's based on, moving from Debian to Arch.
As for the replacement for desktop, the Steamdeck (and with it SteamOS 3) launched with full desktop mode available and while the core system is immutable as discussed, it's still a fully functional desktop OS and as such it depends on your personal needs how much of a windows replacement it can be, just like any other linux OS. Also you might need a dock or other USB hub to attach a keyboard and mouse if you need them, but there is onscreen keyboard and touchpad on the steamdeck available.