Right now looking into bang for the buck workhorses with a small footprint/build volume. A description that fit the Prusa mini+ perfectly in the past, but it feels like Prusa is a dinosaur that hasn’t moved with the times.
So who is still buying the Prusa mini+ and why?
Personally: While Prusa has outstanding support, good data protection, and does good things but there is now the Bambu Lab A1 mini.
Prusa mini is at the moment 500€ plus 20€ for a filament sensor (sic., it’s nearly 2024 and that’s an paid upgrade on half a grand printer) and another 7€ for WiFi.
Bambu Lab on the other hand is 320€.
Looking at the specifications, the A1 looks like a clear winner: For maintenance, there are three tasks: 1. cleaning and lubricating the mechanics (both are the same in this respect); 2. cleaning the build surface (both are the same); 3. maintaining the hotend and here Bambu Lab is clearly the better system as you can replace the nozzle in just a few seconds compared to Prusa’s E3D v6 hotend, which requires hot tightening.
The operation is not that different. Both support network, web interface, and automatic bed leveling probed at the nozzle. Bambu Lab has a camera built in, but this requires the printer to be connected to the BambuLab cloud, which may not be possible as the model data is shared with/uploaded to China. I would say this is still a strong point for Prusa as privacy is not an issue with their printers which means they can be easily deployed.
Performance should be close with input shaping enabled, but the A1 mini has the higher flow rate hotend, which means BambuLab is once again the winner (still no highflow at only 28 mm^3/s but twice the flow of a Prusa V6).
The build volume is identical and the footprint is also almost identical, so again no point where Prusa beats BambuLab.
Value? I have already mentioned it. 1.6 Bambulab for the price of 1 Prusa is a clear answer. If Prusa still had the 400€ original launch price and a filament runout sensor included, maybe the answer would be Prusa due to privacy/easier integration. The 200€/printer price difference is so significant that I don’t see who is still buying multiple Prusa mini+.
Btw. is there another printer on the market that just works paired with a small footprint and excellent value?
I guess it’s people who care where the products they use are made.
I am very happy to support the EU economy by buying Prusa. Outstanding printers and support. Also we don't have anything remotely close here in the US.
I do care and that's why at 400€ I would go with them but with 320€ vs. 520€ you have to put a lot of emphasis on this point.
As compromise to split it between Prusa and BambuLab isn't feasible either. You want a standardized setup to keep it simple. Meaning all Prusa or all BambuLab.
Yea Here in the states the prusa mini + is $480 with the filament sensor.
The a1 mini is $300. Or $460 with the ams lite.
The a1 mini is $15 to ship while prusa os $45-66 depending on what I want
Also bambu is avaliable at microcenter by me while I dont k ow of any store that sells prusa here.
The new a1 is even a better value. $400 or $560 woth the ams lite vs the prusa mk3s at $650 for the kit or $900 built
I can get the a1 + A1 mini for just $50 more than the mk3s kit.
I'd love to support prusa but maybe they should think of opening a branch in the states or team up with a retail partner
Sounds like you've already decided on the Bambu.
End up woth the k1 for $380.
I don’t know if things have played out the way Prusa wanted to, but it seems like that might have been their intent when Prusa did acquired a U.S. company, named Printed Solid. That being said, I haven’t seen much in terms of integration (but I’m also not privy to internal operations).
It be great to see some production moved state side to reduce shipping and lead times. But they still have to do something in regards cost and speed.
I have no doubt how open and reparable prusa printers are and that has played a role in print farms and industrial settings wanting them.
However looking at the mk4 pre-built I am looking at $1200. That is 3 a1 printers. Will a single mk4 have the same up time as 3 a1 printers ? Each a 1 is faster I believe than the prusa mk4 . I can get 4 a1 mini machines.
The mk3 is not much better for me it's almost $900 pre-built. That is 3 a1 mini machines and I can get 2 a1s and I'd be just $60 shy of making one of those the ams lite bundle.
So yea prusa needs to get the price down. They also need to integrate some of the newer tech like lidar. Heck the prusa mini is $429 us and a filament sensor for ot os $20 so it's $450. The a1 mini is $300 or $469 for the bundle with ams lite.
I hope to see prusa adjust prices and add new features in during 2024.