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[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Identity politics, nice. Free speech benefits everyone.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As all real free speech advocates will tell you in opposition to „free speech absolutist“ elon musk is that you are free from government intervention for being of different opinion but not free to harass others with -isms.

You’re not free to dump on women, poc, neurodivergents, disabled people and any other minority.

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You’re not free to dump on women, poc,** neurodivergents, disabled people** and any other minority.

I'm autistic

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same here. You‘re still not free to dump on minorities.

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Words aren't violence. and naughty-racial words, are words.

I actually want people to be allowed to say those things, why? Because if someone says it out loud, unapologetically when they say they hate those n-words in their schools. Well now I know who to stay away from.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh. So you‘re fine if others hang themselves because they get constantly harassed because it doesn’t affect you, got it.

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Words are words. Words aren't violence.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So if I tell your friends, school and employer that you are a murderer, a pedophile or about your dirty hobbies, that is perfectly fine with you? You do recognize those things are punishable by law?

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Another false equivalence.

False damaging claims made with malicious intent. Slander, again, there's already laws about that.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Whatever you‘re taking, take less.

You just said words are not violence so slander is not damaging.

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Words still aren't violence

Slander is words, but slander is a crime.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, mental gymnastics helps with defying logic, I know.

You started with saying there should be no moderation and saying words are not violence. You used that term. So stop lecturing me about your mistakes.

Saying things that harm others is bad and needs to be moderated.

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you call an ambulance for yourself when someone hurts your feelings? No, so words aren't violence.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doesnt matter. You proved yourself wrong. Have a nice day.