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[–] Jonny@kbin.social 42 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I don't really agree with the abusive relationship analogy. Things only change if there are people there who want it to change. While I understand and sympathise with the desire to leave, I have the utmost respect for those who choose to stay and try to make/ be the change needed.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

A lot of people have stayed in abusive relationships for that reason: "They can change! I can change them." Meanwhile the state is rapidly moving backwards. This is like being dragged behind the abuser's truck and not wanting to cut the rope.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people stay in abusive relationships because they don't have a realistic opportunity to leave. A lot of people in abusive states like Texas stay because they don't have a realistic opportunity to leave.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

And both parties suffer the consequences accordingly.

[–] Jonny@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, that would be the part that doesn't work. Ideologies do not remained contained, they spread. And countries and states regularly change, all the time.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

You are totally right.

These people would have shit on Rosa Parks, too.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The only solution in an abusive relationship is to leave.

[–] Jonny@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Which is why I don't agree with the analogy. Because that is not the solution when it comes to political ideologies.

History is full of terrible ideologies. Things like women's right to vote, and segregation. If people who disagreed and who had the means to leave all did, these likely would still be laws in the US.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If Ohio voters left Ohio when it went red, they wouldn't have abortion access or weed right now.

[–] die444die@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Not really. You can also have the abuser locked up and stay in your home.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But enough taxpayers leaving can have a real effect. Enough people leave, the government notices and has to ask 'why?'

[–] akincisor@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

Enough people leave an the rest will strengthen their majority. No politician is going to care unless it costs them power.