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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

We are not "giving" hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine.

We are giving them mothballed weapons that are going to rot in a wearhouse somewhere, then replacing them with new weapons that are manufactured right here in the US and that industry whether you like it or not employs thousands of american workers.

Its important that this fight is won by Ukraine because:

A) a win by Russia and they control a MAJOR food producer and can affect food prices on a whim.

B) the US letting it happen proves we won't stick by any ally and our word is useless. Good luck finding help in a major war.

C) the US walking away gives a green light to China to invade Taiwan. Making them the sole producer of high-end computer chips.

There is so much at stake with this war. it's not even funny.

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago

My concern is that we can give Ukraine millions of dollars of small arms, artillery, aging tanks etc. but they still need capable personnel to effectively employ it. From what I have seen it seems they were already scraping the bottom of the barrel and pressing older and older men into service via conscription. We know the Russians aren't concerned about how many bodies they throw at the conflict because they have supplemented their own forces with convicts, political dissidents, and poor conscripts.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago

Like I said, I want them to win. It’s important they win. For all of the reasons you gave. All I’m saying is that it gets harder and harder to support and hope for others when I feel like my family is drowning and I know that my neighbors are too. I know a lot of it is weapons funding, some of it isn’t. I wish we treated the people at home as importantly as we do world conflicts, that’s all I’m saying. Does no one else feel that apathy?