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[–] cerement 127 points 11 months ago (5 children)

when Tony’s Chocolonely started up based on slave free, the financial journals were doing headlines like “will they be able to survive this bold new direction?”

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 45 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They eventually found the cocoa market to be almost impossible to separate from slavery. They still do their best, which is a lot more than most, but they don't make any guarantees

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago

They have some argument for doing business with one of the largest processors who’s not the worst but not provably ethical. Discouraging.

Found it:

At Tony’s, we exist so make all chocolate 100% slave-free, not just our own. That means climbing into the lion’s den and tackling change from within. It means getting to the root of the problem and paving the way for others by proving the scalability of our solutions.

Surprised that the processor, Barry Callebaut, is down for Tony to publish such blunt criticism of them. It’s like “don’t worry, Barry’s made a totally separate production line for us - only the Barry’s non-Tony production line contains the slave blood!”

[–] Resonanz 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Man, capitalism is just fucking wild, isn't it?

[–] cerement 52 points 11 months ago (2 children)

like Nestlé getting out of a child slavery lawsuit because none of the slavery happened in the US?

[–] positiveWHAT@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sometimes I wonder why mass shootings happen so often at universities and not at such HQs.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Lack of education

[–] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That would be a rad game, if you could wake up Manchurian Candidate style in a bathroom in the 42nd floor rest room just before a board meeting at Corpotek and there is a voice in the back of your head that guides you to the pistol that is hiding under the second toilet from the wall.

What would the song that activates you be?

[–] Resonanz 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fuck it, from where I come from: people in agriculture get smacked just by existing or trying to build common cause with "let's end hunger in the world". I'm with you, salutations from America Latina ! And let's make those fuckers get what they deserve.

[–] cerement 19 points 11 months ago

Quando dou comida aos pobres, chamam-me de santo. Quando pergunto por que eles são pobres, chamam-me de comunista. (When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.)

—Dom Hélder Câmara, cited in Zildo Rocha, Helder, O Dom: uma vida que marcou os rumos da Igreja no Brasil (2000)

[–] M137@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Resonanz 3 points 11 months ago
[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

The biggest problem with claiming to be slave free is that you need to own the farms to make sure, which means the locals don't get those profits either.

Whittaker's is slave free but they can't advertise it because they support the local economies ... which means they can't be reasonably sure slaves aren't used when they're not looking.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have yet to see proof that Tony's is actually slavery free. And if it isn't (as in "we are doing oUr BeSt") then why the hell would I buy from them instead of... not buying chooclate?

[–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because they pay a lot more to the producers.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok so they pay more to the slave owners... how does that help the slaves?

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

They get whipped with gold plated chains instead of your low cost leather whips.