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Is the implication here that only untalented people would ever put up with working in an office?
I know it's not a commonly heard notion around these parts, but unlikely as it may seem, some people genuinely don't mind working in an office. Some even prefer it. Has nothing to do with talent, everything to do with preference and the level of compensation they get for doing it.
Usually they are the people that don't have hard skills and/or love to hear themselves talk. They're the people that make me love WFH.
Also don't discount the 40-50 crowd with kids still in high school age. I know someone extremely smart for our org who likes in person. I don't know if it's a break from the family, seeing different faces, being used to the way things were in the past, or the fact they're in a slightly more isolated role now.
I say all this to say there are probably some who want the office culture but we (our team) tries to ensure we have a social event once a month where we all "clock out" a couple hours early and go hang out. They are also not trying to push everyone to go back to the office and respects most people do enjoy WFH. Just trying to give another perspective on some people who enjoy the office (not me though, fucking love pooping in my own toilet and using lunch to do what I want).
I've met literally 1 guy in my career of 25 years who was both really fucking good and liked being in the office.
They're out there...they're just very rare. But if you listen to the C level propaganda everyone misses in office work...and that's simply not true.
Your perspective is correct. I just hate humoring it because a bunch of PMs and middle managers (useless bodies) pile on it.
Talented people have more bargaining power. The implication is that nobody wants to work in the office, but some people do it because they have to.
Yes?
If you don't have the skills or experience to sell yourself then obviously you don't have a lot of options.
Not directly. The Dead Sea Effect says "those who can find an acceptable new job the fastest will leave first". That usually means the super-stars and more-talented, but the residue behind all that evaporation isn't all salt. Some people, even the most employable, will stick around, while their benefit/cost/risk/tolerance kind of equation still allows it.
For some people, RTO doesn't hit their cost and tolerance all that hard. The more unsuitable a person's home environment is for work and how easy their commute is, that'll greatly affect forced RTO acceptance and the Dead Sea Effect.