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Isn’t this what Michelle Obama tried to do? What would you (or anyone else wanting to pitch in) suggest for policies?
Jamie Oliver as well in the UK. People STILL hate him for trying to feed their kids better than they could. The strength of the desire in people to make life worse for themselves and everyone else makes me hate this fucking country.
I remember having an argument with a friend about algebra in schools. Her kid was struggling, so she said why does he need to learn it, he can just get a job like hers where it's not needed. Every other post of hers on Facebook was complaining about her crappy job.
There's a strange mentality here that we're all struggling, but nobody should be doing better. If someone does try, they get called out for it and shamed.
The mentality of the working class passed down.
The problem with wealthy influencers like him is they always promote expensive food items with meaningless qualifiers. Local, organic, free range, natural etc don’t mean shit when you are broke. Teach people how to make healthy dishes with conventionallly grown foods you can buy at Walmart or whatever because that’s where the people who need help the most shop. Familiar foods, Vegetables. Beans. Rice. Lentils. Chicken. Nuts. Etc. not EVO, spaghetti squash, and “organic” chanterelles.
The upper middle class people who shop at Whole Foods don’t need a Jamie Oliver. And that’s what his target audience was/is.
Then don't buy the organic free range stuff. Jesus Christ, that's super not the issue. Every single chef promotes organic and free range because it tastes better, but Jamie Oliver always disclaims that you can get regular stuff too.
They saw Jamie Oliver as elitist for trying to get kids to not eat shit. Did you ever see his program? It was abysmal what they were serving British schoolchildren in schools.
Make healthy food cheaper and tax junk food heavily. My dad recently moved to Ecuador and he’s eating like a king - fruit is like a 5th of the price there than it is where I am in the US.
Now I’m not expecting fruit at a 5th of the price lol, but making it reasonably priced at all would be a welcome change.
We have to hold the big monopolistic food industries accountable. Look at Hershey's, they have a ridiculous amount of lead in their chocolate and no one doing anything to push them.
Remember what happened when NYC tried to ban sodas? Yeah, good times.
Literally everything is a fifth of the price in Ecuador as it is in the US.
Healthy school meals, making healthy food cheaper, taxing junk food, but I think the most helpful would be to heavily limit advertising of junk food, especially advertising to children.
I really feel like heavy restrictions on advertising would genuinely help with a range of different issues in the modern world.
I love the advertising idea, the tax idea idk. Havent they tried taxing junk food and it’s never worked out? Either through general outrage or people circumventing it
Yeah, the taxing one is quite controversial and I don’t know if I necessarily agree with it.
But, the sugar tax in the UK seems to have had a positive impact so far, from what I’ve seen it’s reduced childhood obesity and dental issues.
Maybe taxing junk food to specifically and directly subsidize healthy food? Feels like an obvious idea now that I think about it but I can also imagine junk food companies absolutely throwing a fit. Bet it would be popular with the average person though.
Start by reversing some of the bullshit decisions Congress made. Like how they decided pizza was a vegetable.
https://www.thejournal.ie/us-congress-rules-that-pizza-is-a-vegetable-282033-Nov2011/
It's a wonder Americans can actually get any good health advice when everything is a marketing gimmick or flat out lie. But when our own government is just rolling over while businesses legally poison the majority of the population is just insane to me. We don't have to stop individuals making their own choices to fight back against some of this insanity. And proper information is a good starting point. No more deceptive advertising. No more saying your cheese when you're not. No more "Wyngs" or other bullshit naming only designed to deceive.
I think the FTC should crack down on deceptive advertising too.
But these are not the most pressing issues. Call your product whatever name you want, I just want to know exactly what's in it.
I agree that calling something "cheese" when it's "dehydrated oil shreds" or something is deceptive. Saw that today at Whole Foods. No, it's not healthier; it just doesn't have dairy.
Lack of dairy or gluten doesn't make things healthier. Those ingredients aren't replaced with air. They're usually replaced with something that sounds disgusting. But food companies don't want to put that on the package so they list what it doesn't have.
Adam Ruins Everything: ever wonder why cheese is everywhere? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYI9uUl1Ey4
Regulate advertising. Ban ads targeting children.
Michelle Obama’s policies were stupid. Replacing ice cream with low fat ice cream that has more sugar doesn’t help anyone lose weight.
the my plate shenanigans was just replacing high calorie density foods with low density foods but obfuscated by using volume as a measurement.
they did nothing to address food deserts.
Did what? What the hell are we debating here, rotating your plate of vegetables? I don't get this meme.
This meme is saying instead of using shaming as a tactic to help make healthier choices to actually do something and change policies to help everyone achieve a healthier diet. Obviously it won’t reach everyone it’s not perfect, but that’s how I understood it