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[–] Five 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You don't need to drink it to have an effect. Ethanol is absorbed through the roof of your mouth.

The point I'm making is that dosage determines effect, and not all poison bio-accumulates in harmful ways. Lead does accumulate and no level of exposure is safe, but fluoride and ethanol are metabolized and harmless in small amounts, even in chronic exposure conditions like drinking water from non-naturally fluoridated sources.

There are natural sources of water that are geologically fluoridated and are toxic, but if it is being added intentionally under regulated conditions, then it is not toxic. Therefore, fluoride is poison but publicly fluoridated drinking water is not poisonous.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

this doesnt address the point that alcohol and mouthwash is your own choice to drink/use. but tap water is the only option for a lot of people (except expensive and polluting bottled water). why should cities spend taxes on fluoridating water, just so people dont need to use mouthwash? should they do the same with essential vitamins as well? iron?

[–] Five 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Because it's an example of good government, like cities spending money on public transportation. Sure, auto makers and dentists would benefit if they spent it on other things, but the health outcomes for treated water are worth +100x the amount paid for fluoridation.

[–] arin@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The only benefit i see is probably fluoride possibly mineralizing any cracks in the lead pipes and preventing even more lead leeching into tap water. Lead pipes with lack of minerals in the water supply leech way more lead than lead pipes with minerals in the water. But using fluoride is not as good as calcium which we actually take supplements for. But no corporation wants to dump calcium for cheap, they want to dump fluoride which is toxic, win win for corporations at the cost of out drinking water which most poor people can't afford to filter out

[–] Five 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm a poor person, and I'm certain fluoridated water has saved me thousands in dental bills over my lifetime. This is not some sinister corporate conspiracy to harm the poor.

I'm getting seriously tired of debunking fluoride misinformation. If you're not going to link to peer-reviewed science supporting your claims, you should stop posting.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Five 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Linking to a table of 'reasons given' in a paper covering the debate over fluoride as support for your ideas is the gish gallop-style abuse of science. You need to do better.

[–] arin@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nice you can read, go read it and educate yourself

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

That's pretty funny coming from someone that had to reach that far to find a source that "supports" their point.

[–] arin@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's no fluoridated water systems in many other countries and their dental cavity rates also got on par or better than fluoridated communities, so it's not the fluoride in tap water but the overall standards of hygiene. Fluoride creates strong bonds and like lead, the body does not get rid of it easily, it makes bones brittle as it deplaces calcium

[–] Five 1 points 10 months ago

[citation needed]