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Kelsey Grammer sounded curt this morning when he brusquely told a BBC Today program interviewer that he still supports Donald Trump but, according to his interviewer, this curtness doesn’t tell the full story.

Grammer’s interviewer Justin Webb said the Frasier star was “perfectly happy” to go on talking about his support for the former POTUS, “the Paramount+ PR team, less so.”

Grammer has previously expressed support for Trump – a relatively rare position for a TV and movie star to take – and he also used his BBC interview to back Roseanne Barr, another self-confessed Trump supporter.

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[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

One doesn't have to, if one doesn't want to. I don't listen much to Michael Jackson (though I have a soft spot for Thriller), but I'm also not 100% sold on the allegations made against him.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sure u dont have to do anything. But if are to hold urself to ur own standards u set for urself you have cut urself off from a majority of art throughout history. For example by ur own standards then u cant look at anything by Caravaggio, Paul Gauguin, Richard Wagner, Jackson Pollock, etc etc. Whats the purpose of artwork if not to express something. Can you express anything if an artwork is to be judge by ur charecter and not by itself?

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I draw the line at the artist's life. I think there's a world of difference between appreciating a Van Gogh, and buying a book by J. K. Rowling. Van Gogh terrorized a woman and sent her his ear, but he's dead, so any "support" I give him doesn't help him. Whereas J. K. Rowling and Kelsey Grammer are alive and supported by their art. And I refuse to be part of that support.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So pirating it would solve ur issues? U can enjoy the art seperated from author without having to support them.

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, if I was that motivated. Though there is the question of how much his world view is expressed in his work, and how much I want to expose myself to it. But at the end of the day, I've gone, what, 30 years without watching Frasier? I don't need to see it. There are plenty of other TV shows I can watch.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

U said it was in ur backlog all ur issues have been solved other than potentialy exposing urself to an ideology u disagree with. Why dont u wanna expose urself to an idealogy u disgree with? Are you scared that it might change your mind?

Ohh and for the record idk what a fraser is and have absolutly no idea what sort of beliefs are in it.

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Toxic ideologies have a way of coloring your thinking. When I listen to far right nut jobs, racists, sexists and other lunatics I feel stressed and anxious. So, why should I listen to them?

I'm all for discourse and discussion when there are two legitimate competing viewpoints, but not when one of the two viewpoints espouses hate and vitriol. I'm too old to waste my time on that.

Also, if you don't know what Frasier is, why are you invested in convincing me to watch it? Or were you trying to make fun of my spelling while using "u" and "ur"?

[–] john_fla@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Real question: is looking illiterate worth the two letter savings?

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

U know what grammar nazis and regular nazis have in common? They both found there ideology in moronic concepts of purity.