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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] AE5NE@lemmy.radio 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Plant- or algae- derived oils may work better. The key is to not extract hundreds of billions of tons of hydrocarbons that have been sequestered for 100 million years.

[–] sonori@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

We could also scale synthetic fuel made from atmospheric carbon, we’ve had the tech for decades after all, it’s just a lot more expensive than stealing it from the ground. While algae might be easier, i have doubts as to plant based biofuel owing largely to the land and water use required to scale up to the levels we need. I don’t doubt that with greenhouses and desalination it could be done, but labor, capital, and effort wise i would expect algae or chemical systhasis to come out on top.

Problem is that either way it takes more energy to make than it receives, which when we constantly burn oil for power is a net loss, but at the same time it’s the only long term solution for applications like long term flight.

[–] silence7 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There are very real limits to biofuel availability which are going to limit how much we can use them. Maybe for a few long-haul flights, but its mostly going to be travel avoidance and better surface transport which replaces aviation

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Like trains? I hear every time a train is built Elon feels unimaginable pain. We should build more trains.

[–] silence7 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trains are great. Electric aircraft are a possibility

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cargo Zeppelins would be really cool. Not very practical, but still