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"We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not."

That's gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I've heard in a while.

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[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean has going with the status quo worked for 50+ years (in the specific case of Palestine)? Clearly not? So makes sense they would try something else.

Just because the dems decide not to learn the actual lesson in 2016 means we should just eat shit forever?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Just because the dems decide not to learn the actual lesson in 2016 means we should just eat shit forever?

As far as the party is concerned, we should like the taste of shit because they do.

[–] Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Dems have moved a LOT in 50 years in almost every aspect. You think the Dems of 50 years ago would have even tried to forgive student loans? Hell, even in 2016 it was laughed out of the park. Believe it or not, the Dems have moved on their position with Israel, just not enough to be hugely noticeable. The biggest change has been Israel increasing moving further right and the Dems staying where they have been/very slightly moving.

In the past few weeks we've seen Biden go from "Ceasefire is off the table" to "We helped organize a humanitarian pause." They just announced a plan to block violent settlers from the States. It's not much, and certainly not enough, but to act like the Dems have not moved on anything in 50 years is a level of stupid I cannot abide. Hell, the Dems of 50 years ago passed DOMA.

[–] mattw3496@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Why do you think they shifted their policy? It's because dem voters are threatening to not vote for them if they are shitty. Yeah, democrats have a problem with not voting together leading to 2016-like elections, but that type of event causes the party to correct themselves a little. It'd be better if they would actually learn the lesson though.

They won't because they are corporatists and reactionary, but maybe one day.