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You think cavemen invented clubs and bats way back in the day to play baseball before they decided to use them to murder things?
Violence was pretty much the only thing contributing to human advancement until about the 14th century. Funny enough, the first gun was made around the 11th century.
Leave the US if it's such a hellhole. Go live in those other countries where you don't have to worry about how unsafe the US is if they are so great. And don't give some bullshit excuse like it's expensive, refugees from hellholes do it everyday and it's a great option for them to escape their shitty countries from what i hear. I hear Russian is really nice this time of year, maybe Ukraine? Last I heard, they were looking for more citizens. Maybe somewhere a little warmer like UAE? They seem to be doing pretty well for themselves, at least until that oil money runs out from the world switching to EVs and Green power.
I'll take my chances with gun violence. At least I can see a person with a gun coming for me. Can't say the same for a Malaria ridden bug or some refugee coughing TB all over the place.
According to this, guns would only be making the US a safer place since 2/3 of all US gun "violence" is the gun owner using it on themselves.
That would put the actual total gun violence deaths in the US at 13704, just a couple hundred higher than the 13384 drunk driving fatalities that happen in the US in 2021. So when are you going after Alcohol and Weed to be banned? Or do you feel drunk driving is just a secondary use for those so it doesn't count when worrying about how people are killing one another?
How's the ban on cigarettes going since you really care about people doing unsafe things and dying from it? Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. More than TWELVE times, the number of people that die from guns, including the suicides. Almost 4000 more people die a year from just living in a country with smokers than those who die due to gunshots.
Really let that last sentence soak in! 41000 people died not because they chose to smoke but because other people then themselves decided to smoke near them. Only around 38000 people died from guns in 2019, and out of those around 23000 of them killed themselves, I can only assume so they wouldn't have to put up with people like you that are really going to try and skip around all this other information just to try and take away people's right to defend themselves using the best tool for the job.
Fuck off you, God damn lunatic!!!
Please read your own statistics. The first graph you showed forgot to add gun suicides to the gun violence number. And removing ~2% of deaths just by changing some simple laws is huge. It would be better than completely curing AIDS.
Regarding your second screenshot: The guy before was talking about how the USA is the most dangerous western country. So you post a screenshot which puts the USA behind some non-western country.
If you look at the fitting article on Wikipedia
You see that the USA is currently on place 9, behind only South/Middle American and Carribian countries.
The next kinda western country is Serbia on place 22.
What a tool. Smoking should be banned, yes. I do agree with that. And I'm leaving US soon enough, don't worry lol. But if your response to criticism is "hurr durr leave US", there's no point in arguing with a meathead like you.
Drunk driving IS ILLEGAL. It's a by product of US's car centric lifestyle. That should also be addressed. Also, you talked about diseases. Like bitch, everyone IS trying to abolish them. It's just hard. What a dumb motherfucker you are.
Yeah, a bit farther down he posted that anyone who is against guns hates men (even if they themselves are men as well).
So apparently, his whole ego and masculinity are built on himself shooting guns.
It's sad, really.
👏👏👏👏 Great retort there. Just ban anything that might hurt people. Bye guns, bye cars, bye tools, bye drugs, bye smokes, bye pets, bye sugar, bye bacon, etc, etc, etc. Just your standard leftist argument for people to have nothing and be happy about it.
You're just another average leftist. Blame guns instead of criminals. Blame cars instead of drunk drivers. Anything to punish innocent Americans instead of actual criminals.
Dude could give you fact after fact after fact and all you can say is "hurr durr, US is bad".
Leave faster. 🖕
What fact? Data literally shows that US is the least safe of all Western countries. And I'm saying Western countries because there's no point in comparing with poorer countries, they have other problems. And I'm not saying banning any of those stuff is good, you moron.
Guns should be regulated heavily, cars should not be needed by anyone and everyone, who said anything about tools? Drugs are already regulated. Smokes too, every country is trying to abolish it. And I'm not totally against all drugs. I actually think weed should be legalized, as it seems to be much safer than cigarettes and not at all worthy of a ban. Pets are nice. I love sugar, and bacon.
You don't know anything about me, internet stranger. It's clear to me that you prefer to make enemies out of everyone who disagrees with you. I wish people like you had a chance to be better.