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[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Gotta love how whenever someone posts something about Chick Fil A, there are several comments calling them bigots.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick-fil-A_and_LGBT_people

They stopped donating to anti-LGBT organizations 11 years ago (except for FCA and the Salvation Army, organizations that are considered anti-LGBT due to stances, not actions. They stopped donating to those in 2020 anyways.)

[–] grue@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Doesn't change the fact that they ever decided to donate to them in the first place. Some things you just don't get to come back from; sucks to be you.


Reminds me of a joke:

So a man walks into a bar, and sits down. He starts a conversation with an old guy next to him. The old guy has obviously had a few. He says to the man:

"You see that dock out there? Built it myself, hand crafted each piece, and it's the best dock in town! But do they call me "McGregor the dock builder"? No! And you see that bridge over there? I built that, took me two months, through rain, sleet and scorching weather, but do they call me "McGregor the bridge builder"? No! And you see that pier over there, I built that, best pier in the county! But do they call me "McGregor the pier builder"? No!"

The old guy looks around, and makes sure that nobody is listening, and leans to the man, and he says:

"But you fuck one sheep..."

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So they shouldn't bother trying to fix the errors of their ways?

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What ever happened to the free market deciding? I thought the whole point of capitalism is that if you do awful things your business dies?

They should have lost all of their customers the moment the public found out what they were doing. Some of us aren't going back to such a business.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole point of capitalism is to whore out our humanity for money while trying to outrun entropy.

I'm aware that's how it works in practice. I'm saying that even by conservative, capitalist idealism they should have been shut down for being bigots.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you miss the fact that the free market did in fact decide on this case? The market decided their business would succeed wildly.

You're missing my point. I am saying that the "free market shall decide" is enough justification to boycott them, regardless of how long ago they were doing shitty things.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They should be punished by being stripped of their corporate charter and dissolved. That what you wanted to hear?

Since we're already splitting hairs and crap like that around here I'd like to point out that it does not, in fact, suck to be Chick-fil-A. They're raking in billions and don't give a rat's ass.

Also yes, dissolve the company. ...... But gimme their weird chickeny pickle sandwiches and nugget-things because for some reason I like them 😰 Won't buy them for myself though.

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If every pro-LGBT person was like you, then stopping those donations would have accomplished nothing for them and they might as well have kept doing it.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What are you talking about? I didn't want to just not give them credit for changing; I wanted to destroy them for having committed the offense in the first place.

Corporations are not people. Corporations do not have freedom of speech. Incorporation is a privilege, and when that privilege is abused to spread hate, it should be revoked.

[–] rothaine@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago

The owner is still the owner and still a bigot.

The owner, Dan Cathy, is still actively involved with groups such as the National Christian Foundation, an organization spearheading the derailment of the Equality Act.[11]

Til that guy steps down, fuck Chick-fil-A

[–] ZzyzxRoad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't really want to support a place that makes their minimum wage employees stand outside to take people's orders either. That includes In N Out. And Dutch Brothers. Also none of them are as good as all the crowds imply, I don't really get it.

[–] charles@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

CFA employees make well above minimum wage around here.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

it's okay to like their greasy sloppy bullshit chicken in peace. you don't have to defend their bigotry online.

plus.

"they only USED TO donate to hate groups" really isn't the defense you think it is

[–] BurnSquirrel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why isn't it? We all USED to crap in our diapers, but times change.

Pretty much everyone you know who was alive in the 90s said or did some horrible shit to or about lgbt people

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Is that comparable to doing it in 2020?

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not defending bigotry. I'm saying they stopped doing what people accuse them of years ago.

Also, I might have the wrong word here, but why are you arguing hyperbolically?

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hm I'm not sure. hyperbolic means using exaggeration for rhetorical or dramatic effect. i dont think I was doing that.

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't really know a better word for it. I was referring to how you turned my "they haven't done it for years" into defense of them doing it, and then also insulted their product so colorfully. Maybe "extreme" would have been a better word? Less specific, but I think that's okay.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Well my comment was certainly biased! It seems like people who grew up eating their food like it a lot more than people who didn't, so I wanted to be sure to make that jab that I don't think their food is that good.

As for how long it's been since they took that stance... I dunno, I do think it's different for average folk in the 90s to make cultural commentary that perpetuates homophobia. What CFA did was bigger, on a systemic level with the aim of affecting policy, and it was at least 20 years later when there already had been a major cultural shift against homophobia. I'd give an individual a pass on improving their bigotry much more easily than I would a corporation.

[–] charles@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you! It drives me crazy how threads about chick fil-a are always exactly the same. "Bigots" and "chicken sucks anyway". Something didn't pass the smell test.