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[–] Oyster_Lust@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It's typical of the way he speaks coming from a salesman and promoter background. He says a lot that can't be argued with because there's really nothing there to argue. He also has a confidence and structure around the words that allows people to read things into what he's saying. People supporting him will see him as saying what they believe and people against him will see him saying the opposite of what they believe. In reality, he didn't say anything of substance, but he managed to get both sides worked up. It's very fascinating to see both supporters and opposers get so emotional over things being said that have absolutely no substance. It's a great study in tribalism, group think, and general psychology.

[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"people against him will see him saying the opposite of what they believe"

No actually we clearly see him saying absolutely nothing and we're just mad that half the population is dumb enough to fall for it.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Exactly. Half the country sees the emperor is naked and insistently say so, but unlike the children's tale, the other half refuse to see it once told.

[–] Oyster_Lust@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago

I should have clarified the "opposers" as the people who have to mention Trump in every conversation and get so physically upset at the very mention of his name. I didn't mean just the people who don't support him.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

as an "opposer", I'm not seeing the opposite of what I "believe", I'm seeing useless propaganda being spread and I'd hence be angry at any political sides' source...

this source just happens to be a fountain of misinformation.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He says a lot that can’t be argued with because there’s really nothing there to argue.

if there's nothing to argue, then arguably he hasn't said anything at all. Yeah sure words came out of his mouth but without any coherent meaning behind them, it's just word vomit

[–] Oyster_Lust@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

And yet people get riled up on both sides because they think he actually said something.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

They all are very interesting characters, but I'd prefer them belonging to some mind experiments rather than the reality.