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The rulings in Maryland and Oregon come amid a shifting legal landscape in the wake of a Supreme Court decision that has imposed new limits on gun regulation.

In the wake of a landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision last year that significantly limits what the government can do to restrict guns, states led by Democrats have scrambled to circumvent or test the limits of the ruling. A few have approved new gun restrictions. Oregon even passed a ballot initiative to ban high-capacity ammunition magazines.

But this week, supporters of the new gun measures suffered a pair of setbacks, underscoring the rippling effect of the court’s decision.

On Tuesday, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Richmond, Va., ruled that a 10-year-old Maryland law related to licensing requirements for handguns was unconstitutional.

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[–] Reddit_Is_Trash@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Why do you think law abiding citizens should be subjected to waiting periods to exercise their constitutional rights?

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The constitutional right to acquire arms immediately and without precondition, I see. Just like the constitutional right to say anything, at any time, without any consequences.

[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This doesn't remove all background checks, so "immediately and without precondition" is facetious.

I agree with not selling weapons to known maniacs, but I also believe that if the govt knows someone's dangerous enough that they shouldn't own a gun for self defense, they already should have been removed from the general population and arrested/imprisoned etc, as they are still very dangerous to the general population without said firearm.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why do you think law abiding citizens should be gassed, arrested and shot at for exercising their constitutional right to petition the government against grievances? Because Trump sure enjoyed doing those things and he says he's going to do it even more if he gets re-elected. And then there's the Republican love of cruel and unusual punishments. And, of course, there's Mike Johnson and other Republicans denying that there is or should be a separation between church and state.

Seems like maybe the people who are supposed to protect your constitutional right to own a gun don't really care about other constitutional rights.

[–] Reddit_Is_Trash@reddthat.com 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Point out the part of my comment where I said that

[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What a lot of whataboutism. I'm against all of that, too, but I can also be against limits on my rights of self defense.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So do you vote for the people who promise to protect your gun rights at all cost or do you vote for the people who feel there needs to be sensible gun regulations?

[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't vote for the people you're talking about

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What is the point of voting for anyone else? What do you achieve?

[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's the point of voting for the two choices you hate when there are other choices?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because those are the only two choices that have a chance of winning. Now please answer my question. What are you achieving?

[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A better question is what are you achieving? Voting against your own interests

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago

That's not an answer.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Same way as law abiding citizens need to wait 21 years, goes through firearm training, and gone through background check to exercise their constitutional rights. If 30 days is such a long time to wait and considered unconstitutional, why not lower the age requirement to 12 years old? Why need firearm training? Why need background check?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

That's what Republicans want. No gun control regulations at all. Anyone, according to them, should be able to buy a gun at any age at any time anywhere.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Because it makes the world safer. Same reason you need a fence around a pool, even though the pursuit of happiness is protected by the constitution (for me, happiness is unbridled access to a pool).

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That's the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You can wait, bud. In OR it's already a ~2 week wait to pick one up from an FFL, it didn't affect me in the slightest. It's clear we need more in-depth preprocessing before granting weapon ownership. It's a deadly item, just like a car is. You gotta register and have a license and all this shit before you can hit the road. Whats the diff?

Also, you actually have to wait to exercise lots of constitutional rights. What you gonna advocate for voting whenever the fuck you want? It's our constitutional right after all!

The issue you should have with any of this is with licensing it likely puts a financial barrier to that same constitutional right.

[–] karakoram@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The car argument is not good. Anyone can buy and operate a car immediately on private property without any interference from government in the US.