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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So, you complain about Trump and then you proceed to elect your own Trump. What's up with that, Netherlands?

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's only one quarter of the seats, but because there's multiple parties that's enough for a plurality. Still, pathetic that there's even that level of support and it is higher than previously.

Hopefully the other parties have the sense to not support them in government. And indeed, that's what the article suggests:

But the heads of the three other biggest Dutch parties have all said they would not serve in a PVV-led cabinet.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In another year we're going to reelect Trump, sadly.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 6 points 11 months ago (6 children)

No, we won't.

History has proven out that no one cares what your political ideology is if you're the candidate of change in a time of poverty, and thanks to Biden's inaction, the massive increase in cost of living nationwide is going to sink his reelection prospects.

The Republicans are not going to have to lie about how little he's done to help the poor and middle class.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trump is not the candidate of change. Everyone knows him and knows what he stands for. And he's been rejected many times.

The Republicans are not going to have to lie about how little he's done to help the poor and middle class.

It's just a feeling you have. The average American is actually better off than ever. If you're not better off than ever, you're probably just not the average American.

https://www.investopedia.com/americans-are-wealthier-than-ever-why-do-they-feel-worse-about-their-finances-8379568

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It's just a feeling you have. The average American is actually better off than ever.

The average American, no matter where they live, is dealing with a 30% to 50% cost of living increase over the last couple of years, when Biden's been in office.

That's going to be hard to sell in a reelection campaign.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's what the article is talking about. That feeling of being less well off.

But even accounting for inflation, the average American is actually better off than ever, also while Biden's been in office.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That feeling of being less well off.

I got bad news for you: no one cares what an economist says about how they should feel, they only care about how they DO feel, and most Americans feel worse off.

That's not Biden's fault, obviously, it's Capitalism's, but try explaining that to your average American.

[–] HelixTitan@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Except there were 80 million people who said no to that last time. Trump is not the candidate of change regardless of what one thinks of Biden, to even pretend that is absurd. I honestly don't think anyone would now somehow be more sympathetic towards him. He hasn't changed, and neither has the American public

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You could be right, but I wouldn't want to have to sell Biden's record to people who are paying more than double for groceries since he got elected. Wages, where they've increased, haven't kept up with cost of living, and that's going to be a big deal in the election.

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

the massive increase in cost of living nationwide

Worldwide. This is not just an America thing.

[–] rgb3x3@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

It's not going to matter to the voters. They can't see part their TVs.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

First polls didn't seem great but it's too soon to say ofc