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The main thing is, as long as you don't show up to work blitzed I don't see how anyone should give a shit. Whatever you do at home is your business, provided you leave it at home.
That's the policy at my business. IDGAF if you spend all of your off hours at the bottom of a bottle or on top of cloud nine, just don't bring it to work.
Additional problems include: If there is a workplace accident and someone gets injured, both OSHA and insurance companies immediately come knocking to try to do drug tests on everyone involved purely as an attempt to shift blame and deny claims. We don't have any heavy equipment here or anything so I'm not too worried about that, but there are businesses in America that would get fucked in a situation like that so they're kind of forced to enact drug bans even if management doesn't want to on a personal level.
If you're driving a bus I don't want you even "buzzed" in the slightest
Which is a problem that pre-employment drug testing does not correct in any way, shape or form.
Pre employment and post accident seems completely fine.
I'll agree randoms are dumb and invasive.
Post accident is fine because the question there is "were you actively impaired while working" which is a valid concern. What is pre-employment testing supposed to show that's relevant to the vast majority of jobs though? "Sometimes this person uses recreational drugs." Ok, and what? Are they coming to work impaired? If not, then outside of the medical field and airline pilots, who cares?
Why on earth should a corporation be allowed to require a privacy violating urine test as a condition for employment for a desk job? And even for safety critical jobs like medical or pilots, a pre-employment urine test isn't going to catch abuse of the one drug that is the biggest red flag in the entire collection: alcohol.
Many hyper critical jobs have drug screens every time you enter the job site
That's not relevant to pre-employment testing being literally useless for the vast majority of jobs
Why not? Can't be sober and clean for day 1 after getting an offer?
Marijuana stays in people's systems for weeks. I don't think that never smoking pot should be a requirement of employment.
I don't smoke pot. I care about people's liberty. And you're being a prick.