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The US has been drunk on the delusion of how noble and benevolent we consider ourselves since World War II.
We like to conveniently forget that at the time, many Americans looked up to the Nazis and were embracing eugenics. We were legally sterilizing subjective "undesirables," often without their knowledge, and we had no plans to do shit until the Axis, already steeped in conflict, decided to attack us directly from half a world away, committing one of the greatest self-inflicted tactical blunders in history thankfully.
America is all about subjugation, exploitation, and genocide. It just got a propaganda team to soften the way in which it talks about it since the mid 20th century.
At the end of the day, that's the magic of America: bullshitting. Lying. To ourselves and others. From "all men* are created equal" (Only applies to wealthy Caucasian land owners) to "manifest destiny" (genocide the people that already live here because its our destiny) to "separate but equal"(even apex American bullshitters couldn't say this one with a straight face) to "turning the bull loose"(get back to work slaves, this isn't a society) to "don't ask, don't tell" (we refuse to accept you as a human being, but hey come die gruesomely so our greedy fucks can access foreign oil markets). Our bullshit machine runs so deep, we are a ~~nation~~ capital exploitation farm that practically doubles as a religion.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26322647/#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20members,upheld%20such%20laws%20in%201927.
People also forget that the people who came to the New World to escape religious persecution were being persecuted because their beliefs were so radical that no one wanted to deal with their bullshit anymore.
Yep!
And we're still the sexuality phobic weirdos of the developed world, which stems out of our puritanical backwards forerunners.
Glorification of gruesome, bloody hyperviolence all day baby, we'll show it on a loop on the news for the kiddos! Don't forget to like and subscribe!
One flaccid dick or vagina in public, on the other hand, and everyone loses their minds!
This is an us thing. We are the prudes of the developed western world. “Omg a boobie AAAAHHHH my child is scarred for life!“
If there's one thing I know about the US, it's that everyone is afraid of boobies.
Half these people just love the drama of it. It works to your advantage if you're a spiteful prick.
The puritans are dead an buried and the only quaker I see is on my steel cut oats.
Boycott PepsiCo!
You think we don't consider public nudity to be indecent? Like, do you think people outside of America go around naked and nobody bats an eye?
i mean yeah in many places it is perfectly normal to basically be naked, mostly in really swelteringly hot areas. And here in the nordics there's plenty of contexts where being naked is fine, and even outside of that the reaction to nudity is moreso "you okay bro?" than "OH GOD A NAKED PERSON ARREST THEM FOR INDECENCY"
the idea of raising a stink about a woman breastfeeding is so fucking stupid, who gives a shit if they have a tit out to feed a baby??? just look away if it's so bothersome.
Breastfeeding is not going around naked, and going around naked is definitely something considered indecent. Like, people might not scream but they'd definitely report a maniac to the police if someone is walking down the street dressed like when he was born
At no point were they discussing nudists. That's a strawman you created.
That's what public nudity is
No, it's included in umbrella term of public nudity, but it's not the definition of it.
Is showing off your dick in public public nudity then?
Radical beliefs aside, religious persecution was the style of the day, anything but Anglican was asking for trouble.
One of the best examples of U.S. government PR is the rebranding of the Department of War to the Department of Defense, even though its function didn't change. People don't like war, but call it defense and you're golden.
"Defense companies"
Wait, I thought the Nazis were the ones looking up at the Americans and based on them
It goes both ways. Nazis were inspired by the US specifically the Jim Crow era, And US were looking up to Nazis until Japan nuked pearl harbor.
"Japan nuked pearl harbor" 💀💀💀
not nuked I meant bombed lmao
Imagine if Japan legit did a reverse Uno card on the US lmao
It was an extreme minority opinion regardless, this idea that America was almost on Germany's side is just revisionist bunk. Even the Republicans just wanted to stay "neutral." So neutral they didn't even want to sell anyone guns, the unAmerican swine.
The native fascist parties were clowns that started as a pyramid scheme and couldn't even do a coup right.
Of course, America was an apartheid state at the time, so it's really only the democracy and not invading your neighbors bit that we were doing better in the first place.
I didn't say America was about to side with the Nazis, I'm saying the Nazis took inspiration from American policies
The US is democratic?
And the Nazis were looking up to Americans! House on fire and all that...
To be fair, every nation feels good about themselves. Be proud of the good things, neglect the bad things. Who would want to be the bad guy? This is how human mind works.
Except that's not the case at all. Lots of people in lots of nations will gladly tell you their country is shit.
Including the us. Correct
So what is Iceland's equivalent to the whole "being the most prolific funder and enabler of fascist terrorism in human history" that they are (supposedly) neglecting?
Best I could find is that they were one of the largest beneficiaries of that funding. Also they extended their fishing rights well beyond their coast, but it's unclear to me if it breached international law or not.
Supposedly they had broken some international agreements and rules, because the Wikipedia article mentioned that the US defended them in those instances and let the infractions happen.
That's the best I've got though. They're surprisingly quite clean. Depends I guess on how you view their accepting American money.
Yeah... it's actually really difficult to think of them as "western" or even "white."
This is not accurate. "We" (specifically FDR) were already keeping Britain afloat financially in their war with Germany and were already literally fighting German U-boats in the Atlantic prior to Pearl Harbor. Even as far as Pearl Harbor was concerned, we were waging economic warfare against Japan by cutting off their oil and steel in response to their depredations in China - which embargo precipitated their sneak attack in the first place.
Hello, CIA tip line?
This post right here /s
This is revisionist tripe. The real reason we were slow to enter the war was that doing so was hugely unpopular among the two largest ethnicities in the US; Irish-Americans and German-Americans, for very obvious reasons. There were other reasons as well, but it's just a fact that Irish-Americans, many of whom would still have a living memory of the famine, were hostile towards the British, and German-speaking Americans, of whom there were millions, entire towns in fact, had no desire to go to war against Germany.
You leave this out because it's not convenient to your narrative.
But American Exceptionalism