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[–] Fal@yiffit.net 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It’s so much easier when 0C is freezing and 100C is boiling. It works with cooking.

Explain how this is useful in cooking

20-30C = t-shirt weather

68 to 86 is a GIGANTIC difference. 68 is cold for many many people, certainly not "t-shirt weather". and 86 is hot, much more than "t-shirt weather".

[–] BiggestBulb@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Who bundles up in 68F? It's literally room temperature

Also it's useful in cooking because it's an actual, useful scale. You know when it's 90C it's about to be boiling, just makes no sense why you gotta memorize 212F. Random number and all

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Never said "bundling up". But that 10 degree range is so big as to be useless. 68 is not in the same category as 86.

You know when it’s 90C it’s about to be boiling, just makes no sense why you gotta memorize 212F.

What? How often are you putting thermometers in whatever it is you're boiling? You just heat it until it boils. It doesn't matter what the number is.

[–] MidRomney@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for making sense lol. Who's putting a meat thermometer in water to make sure it's boiling? It's boiling when it's boiling.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

people actually use boiling water to calibrate their meat thermometers, but they always forget to check their elevation. boiling point here is 205 degrees, and 7 degrees matters when say chicken is safe at 160 but you actually pulled it off at 155

[–] BeardedSingleMalt@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

i dunno, 68F on a cloudy windy day isn't as pleasant as 68F and sunny.

But then again I'm from Ohio and I won't bother to put on so much as a vest until it hits 50s

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

100 is absolutely a random number, just fetishized.

[–] ThisOne@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

68f is for sure t-shirt weather. 86f is for sure T-shirt weather.

Who TF bundles up if it's 86 deg.

Super confused, you bundle up at 68f for normal ideal summer temps? Or is 68-86 Gigantic enough you need long sleeves? Or like just low keyed afraid are you of the outdoors at 20c? Spoiler alert... It's nice?

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

68f is for sure t-shirt weather.

68 is not t-shirt weather for a lot of people.

What is this about "bundling up"? Literally no one said anything about bundling up. But 68 and 86 are just fundamentally different temperature categories.

you bundle up at 68f for normal ideal summer temps? Or is 68-86 Gigantic enough you need long sleeves?

68 means you may or may not need a jacket, depending on the wind, fog, etc. It also means you should probably carry a jacket because it's likely to drop down below "t-shirt" weather when the sun goes down. 86 means you'll likely not need a jacket at all, even at night. And it means the wind will be refreshing rather than biting. And it might mean shorts as well.

Like, I just don't believe that you can't understand how 68 and 86 are fundamentally different temperature categories

[–] ThisOne@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

68 is shorts and T-shirt weather in my part of the world. No one carries a jacket around if it's that warm. Maybe it's cold to you if you live between the tropics? I can't speak to that

20-30c is a cool shortcut that F doesn't really have. The original comment is just a decent guideline and "I just don't believe that you can't understand" what a guideline is.

But if you need all this stuff to exist outside in nice weather maybe a quick guideline is not for you...

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

20-30c is a cool shortcut that F doesn’t really have.

What kind of shortcut? 68-80 are so massively different. Even if 68 is shorts and t-shirt for you, that means 86 is "uncomfortably hot". And even if 68 is t-shirt weather, it means at night it's going to drop probalby 10 degrees. So 68 is "tshirt weather right now, but bring a jacket", and 86 is "tshirt weather but leave the jacket at home". and the 10 degree bands of F are perfect for that. 60s is "cool, may or may not require a jacket depending on your preference". 70s is "nice right now but prepare for cool when the sun goes down", 80s is "warm, don't bring a jacket", etc.

So sure, we don't have the "20-30c" shortcut (again, way too big to be useful). We have EVERY 10 degree band as a shortcut

[–] ThisOne@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

68-80 are similar temps. I'm comfy at both. I wear the same thing outdoors at both temps.

I'm sorry you don't I guess and are offended that someone else is different than you.

20-30 is easier to understand than 68-80 for most people (obviously there's an exception)

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, 68 to 80 are somewhat similar. I obviously meant 68-86.

But 68-80 IS similar, and it's exactly why F is better, because we have the 70-80 band. But that's exactly the point, 68 and 86 are NOT similar temps, hence being in separate 80-90 band.

[–] ThisOne@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Fal@yiffit.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you read the discussion that you were actually having to me, we were obviously talking about 20-30c, which is 68-86F. And it was mentioned several times in this thread. And the context of my reply made it abundantly clear I meant 68-86

[–] ThisOne@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes I mistyped 80vs86. but that percentage of 100 is similar enough that I can't really tell the difference.

I was agreeing that 68 and 86 are both T-shirt weather. Still is to most folks. I get it you're not most folks.

I'm imagining your place as just filled with coats and thermometers that you care about this to such an extent.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes I mistyped 80vs86.

Oh, thought you were being sarcastic.

But are you seriously saying you can't tell the difference between 68 and 86? That's absolutely absurd

I’m imagining your place as just filled with coats

Yes I live in San Francisco, I have several coats.

and thermometers

My thermostat and my phone. So "full"

[–] ThisOne@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Correct I literally can't tell the difference. That's 100% what I'm saying. (Yeap that was sarcasm)

I'm saying 68 and 86 are both T-shirt weather. And 20-30 is more meaningful to me than 68-86. That's it. That's all.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And 20-30 is more meaningful to me than 68-86. That’s it.

Of course it is, because 68-86 is just the translation. No one would actually use that range. But that's my whole point, 60-70 and 70-80 are better, more meaningful ranges

[–] ThisOne@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Meaningful to you. not to most folks.

After all that you're fine with "eh it's just translation." then why not try a system that has some meaning to it at all instead of arbitrary numbers. At least that's what literally everyone else is saying to you in the comment section.

And hey you can decide 20-25 is not T-shirt weather for yourself and 25-30 is. Crazy right?

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

i literally set my thermostat at 69 because its t shirt warm.