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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Job #1 for self driving vehicles should be don't hit anything. Self driving should be able to have better senses, 100% attention, and better reflexes than human drivers. Until the vehicles can operate without hitting things they should never be allowed on public roads.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, the incident they're referring to was from a driver hitting a pedestrian which then knocked them into the path of the Cruise vehicle. They actually do a pretty good job of not hitting things but every incident gets amplified greatly.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good lord is that what happened? Damn. The misdirection of attention here is astounding. I’m surprised people aren’t trying to ban the production of metal because it was involved in vehicular deaths.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

The issue was that the Cruise didn't detect the collision and dragged the victim along, not that it caused the accident.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until the vehicles can operate without hitting things at a better rate than human drivers they should never be allowed on public roads.

Humans are atrocious drivers, once that mark is reached it's a massive improvement with only upward trajectory from there

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

They too often are, but it somehow seems more accepted for a careless human to hurt someone than a machine to hurt someone.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You just articulated the “100% or nothing” standard, which totally ignores how unsafe human drivers are. Let’s say humans score an 80% on safety today (after all hundreds of thousands are killed on the roads annually). You’re saying that a technology that’s only 92% safe should not be permitted. Nope. We need that last 8% to be there and we’ll withhold the 12% improvement from the public until it is - even though that has a cost of thousands of lives.

This is a way to get nowhere and kill as many people as possible.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't say 100% but they are not ready to be on public roads when they hit parked fire trucks. Huge objects on the road.