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I've seen a trend where people move the goalposts on the reasons they're not able to switch. "If only this program worked I could switch", but when that program is ported it'll be a new excuse next. Sooner or later you'll have to draw a line and say "99% of my stuff works, the 1% that doesn't can get bent".
Moving goalposts is a concept that applies to debates. Choosing an operating system shouldn't be a debate. It's a personal choice, or sometimes a professional choice. Convincing people who don't want to be convinced shouldn't be anyone's goal.
I didn't mean my post to be read as trying to convince someone to use Linux, but as someone trying to convince themselves to use Linux. It's fairly common that people want to switch but have convinced themselves that unless they have their exact same workflow from Windows they won't be able to.
It's scary. Straight up. You don't know if changing it will put you into a situation where there is no one there to help. All your information is on these machines and Windows for all it's faults is a bought product with customer service.
Making a change without a safety net or someone to walk you through it is ballsy. Research is important and no offense, hard to find for Linux. Sure there are many "how to" videos and scenarios. But what if I play a game and I cannot absolutely live without it. And all of its plugins?
Not unless you're a business customer lol, don't get me wrong they do support but the quality really isn't much above a community Linux forum (at least where I live). Not that the average Joe knows that so the claim is still a valid reason why people don't switch.
I went to MS forums for remembering how to write "sfc /scannow", "Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth", because it was often the first answer on a post. How-To's concerning "bootrec" and "diskpart" were always to be found somewhere else. At least with sfc and dism it was always pray and hope it does something useful under the hood.
With an unbootable Linux partition (which seldomly happens) I mount it, chroot it and then have a plethora of fixes I can try, tools I can use and logfiles I can check instead of putting my self in the hands of 2-3 blackbox-apps. Manual fixing under Windows is possible but nobody can tell me it's feasible with the repair console.
Well, no duh.
M$ has been the dominant OS for the majority of a lot of peoples lives, accordingly a massive, massive ecosystem has grown up around it.
My IT career has taken me some weird and wonderful places, and there is a lot of extremely specialised software that will only run on windows, and wine unfortunately still has a bit of a stigma with its interoperability. When you're running shit a business literally relies on to exist, you don't play games with it.
Fortunately m$ are shooting themselves in the face, which is driving a lot of vendors to rethink their software., but it's still a slog.
Or better yet, that 1% can run in a VM
or on wine
Wine is so much better these days it's not even funny
Yeah, they're doing great work.
I switched to Ubuntu a few months ago and the only thing that doesn't work are a few online games due to anti-cheat software and those games I'll just play on PS5 now. I don't see myself ever going back at this point. Every issue I have encountered I've been able to resolve with a quick google search. Google search has been getting kinda shitty so that's the next thing I'm looking to replace.
If you’re willing to pay for a search engine, I highly recommend Kagi. I’ve been using it for a few months and I like the results better than Google or any other search engine I’ve tried.
Time to host your own SearXng instance
At this point I have used duckduckgo for years with no issues.
I had used Linux before so I wasn't too worried, but gaming for me was the reason. With Proton I had the desire to switch, but I needed something to just push me over the edge. I wasn't taking the leap on my own. For one Windows update it put the search bar back on the Taskbar, which I had told it to remove. Microsoft, once again, ignoring what I had told it before to try to force me to use something is the thing that pushed me over. It's such a small thing, but it'll be different for everyone.
I don't blame anyone for not switching. It's a fairly large change (though not as large as some imagine). Most people will just stick with what they know until something comes along that makes them trip up, and then the thing they know is seen as a hindrance. That's going to be different for everyone. We just need to inform people that, when that thing comes, there is an option for them that will handle pretty much whatever they need.
And the reason is going to be "enterprise" software, which is usually a pile of a flaming wreck that barely runs in its native Windows environment in the first place. So it is with the point of sale/inventory software I have to use for work. I can run it in a VM, but it explodes spectacularly in Wine.
Just install Linux parallel (most installers recognize Windows) and switch entirelly after you're fed up with the hassle.
Sometimes that's reasonable. If the stuff you need doesn't work, fighting it or pushing that boulder up hill is not worth it.
You may not realize certain things are deal breakers until they are stating you in the face.
that means they're lying to you so you stop asking
Diablo 4 and 3. Thats my dealbreaker
Diablo 4 works on Linux, PlayStation and Xbox. Diablo 3 works on the same plus Mac and Switch.
Diablo 4 works perfectly with proton experimental on my steam deck tho
https://www.protondb.com/app/2344520 - Platinum
And from what I can see Diablo 3 works fine with Lutris.
I haven't tried D4 but D3 works fine.
Diablo 3 has worked with wine for a very long time.