that's not working out. time for a new plan... i'm not saying it has to be violence. and i'll keep voting. But it's getting to the point where just voting isn't enough cause they keep changing the rules.... again, doesn't have to be violence. But i'm just saying, i don't know what other option there is. Fuck the rich. I'm not gonna eat em, but i'll be happy to watch others do it.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

that’s not working out. time for a new plan… i’m not saying it has to be violence. and i’ll keep voting. But it’s getting to the point where just voting isn’t enough cause they keep changing the rules… again, doesn’t have to be violence.

All shitposting aside, honestly what's needed is for all of us 'peasants' to track the votes of each elected representative, via the Congress app or otherwise, and then network together via the Internet whenever any of them are running for office; to compare notes. Something like an NRA rating system for gun owners, etc.

Because when it comes down to it, a lot of time people are either lazy or don't have the time to properly investigate the people they're voting for, and end up voting on a whim or a feeling.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people seem to vote on "the other side is worse". Elected officials are alright I guess, but it would be nice to be able to have your own say in complex issues you feel strongly about rather than letting some pampered career politician make decisions that will never effect them.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elected officials are alright I guess, but it would be nice to be able to have your own say in complex issues you feel strongly about rather than letting some pampered career politician make decisions that will never effect them.

Fair enough. But if you feel they are ineffective and or pampered, then you vote them out.

If you can't vote them out, if the majority is disagreeing with you, then you have to look into the reasons as to why.

Most people seem to vote on “the other side is worse”.

When you see them cutting funds on education, you have to think not just how that affects everyone in that moment, but what does that do to the next generation, when they grow up and become voters that just vote the other side is worse.

I truly get the frustration of feeling held hostage by the popular mindset, but we live in a society where we all get a voice, and I don't think we have figured out a way of telling someone they're being nonsensical with their vote and ask them to reconsider, without them getting emotional and overly combative about it. That's a hard nut to crack.

And now these days we have to also fight bots and shills who are purposely being intellectually dishonest to sway thinking to shape a narrative that is positive to just their interests, and not to argue to a solution that is just for all.

Without truth, the center does not hold.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not how a two party system works though, is it?

You choose between "more of the same" or "something horrendous". Otherwise you might as well have thrown your vote away.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That’s not how a two party system works though, is it?

Depends on which of many parties you are speaking of.