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[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Friendly reminder that a defining characteristic of a fascist is drawing hard in-group out-group lines.

(And another is the fetishization and glorification of violence against the out-group)

[–] JohnDoe@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wait, I'm even more confused. Are you saying the OP who posted is creating the demarcations for groups?

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The person who I am directly replying to.

But make no mistake, Israel is also fascist af.

[–] JohnDoe@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wish there was common nomenclature for referring to posters or parts of a comment to make the context clearer. Friends say I am on the spectrum but the Psychologist said that doesn't seem to be the case.

Like, OP1 is lame, OP2 supports genocide, etc. to clarify within a thread without having to quote or @ which I find a bit clumsy and generally gets in the way of flow.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This sounds like a great idea!

I'll clarify, I'm just putting out a reminder that being fascist is not an inherent trait, like green eyes or dark skin. Literally anyone can fall into the trap of fascist thinking. The only way to be truly anti-fascist is to recognize the warning signs in your own thoughts and worldview.

So centrism can sometimes be a trap, but don't demonize the practice of seeing both sides. Taking a hard line with one sides is a step on the path to becoming a fascist.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

So centrism can sometimes be a trap, but don’t demonize the practice of seeing both sides.

Wise words.

It's how Peace is achieved.

Taking a hard line with one sides is a step on the path to becoming a fascist.

And War, and death.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wish there was common nomenclature for referring to posters or parts of a comment to make the context clearer.

For comments, that's how I do it.

Throw one, too, or three asterisks around each side of the sentence you want to highlight.

No need for special verbage or nomenclature. It's done visually.

[–] JohnDoe@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I think what I dislike about that is it breaks up the flow of whatever I am writing. There's a coherence that is lost.

I'm accustomed to reading books or essays where there might be an excerpt, but more likely a paraphrase of what the author considers their opponent's argument to be. This makes it helpful at times to pinpoint a misunderstanding in the author.

But yeah, having consistent rules on the internet for posting is a losing battle I think. More or less thinking out loud, appreciate the comment.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I think what I dislike about that is it breaks up the flow of whatever I am writing.

No, It doesn't have to.

You can just write it out straight, without formatting, and then after you're done that go back and add the asterisks to emphasize the parts that you want to emphasize, already having your thoughts jotted down.

[–] JohnDoe@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 10 months ago

Fair, this might be a stylistic thing. I'll def try and see how it goes.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There should be a distinction between the OP of the thread and the OP of the comment imo. It can get confusing.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There should be a distinction between the OP of the thread and the OP of the comment imo.

OPT and OPC?

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Something like that, yeah. Is that a thing already or did you just come up with it?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Is that a thing already or did you just come up with it?

Unless I accidentally reinvented them, those came from me.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Ah yes, the "I have a black friend" defense.

I have Jewish friends, so I trust you won't call me antisemitic for saying Israel is structurally racist and authoritarian.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I just shown you a highly placed Arab state worker. show me a Jewish in West Bank, mind you?

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Why would a Jew choose to live in the West Bank when there's a much more pleasant country next door offering them citizenship? Your analogy is so flawed I have a hard time thinking you're making it in good faith.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, according to your own words, Israel is a fascist state, hunting down Arab minorities. I have shown an example how a representative of an Arab minority has held an extremely high rank in Israel society, and I believe this fact undermines your claim, hence Israel is not a fascist state.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 10 months ago

I think you've mistaken me for someone else.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't Hitlers physician at one point a Jewish person? I don't think one example is really all that telling.

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you have a Jewish friends then you really aren't anti semitic are you?

Such a smooth brain comment.

Not to mention a huge amount of Israelis themselves criticise the current government and what it's done.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was pretty obvious I was being ironic, but I guess not.

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your comment was indistinguishable from the kind of stupid people that genuinely mean the same thing.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

Unless you read the first half.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Only a sith deals in absolutes!"

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like an "absolute" statement to me!

[–] YeOldGrim@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Glory to the Absolute!

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Would that still count if it's "In group = civilians" " out group = organizations killing civilians"?

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago