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Last year, I wrote a great deal about the rise of “ventilation shutdown plus” (VSD+), a method being used to mass kill poultry birds on factory farms by sealing off the airflow inside barns and pumping in extreme heat using industrial-scale heaters, so that the animals die of heatstroke over the course of hours. It is one of the worst forms of cruelty being inflicted on animals in the US food system — the equivalent of roasting animals to death — and it’s been used to kill tens of millions of poultry birds during the current avian flu outbreak.

As of this summer, the most recent period for which data is available, more than 49 million birds, or over 80 percent of the depopulated total, were killed in culls that used VSD+ either alone or in combination with other methods, according to an analysis of USDA data by Gwendolen Reyes-Illg, a veterinary adviser to the Animal Welfare Institute (AWI), an animal advocacy nonprofit. These mass killings, or “depopulations,” in the industry’s jargon, are paid for with public dollars through a USDA program that compensates livestock farmers for their losses.

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[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So you want to pay $50 for a McDonald's chicken sandwich? I don't think it's right. These chickens are bred to be oversized and grow fast. They get so big that they can barely move. Full of antibiotics so they don't get infected from sitting in their own leavings.

I am really hoping for lab grown meat personally.

And since you may have missed it, these chickens are all female. There are technically ways to determine sex before they hatch but if you really want to get upset Google 'Chick Grinder'. It's as horrible as it sounds so maybe don't Google it.

That being said, I don't want to pay for $50 chickens as much as I don't want to pay for $2,000 iPhones because that's what having them made without slave/child labor would probably cost....

Ugh

[–] PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I was reading that Europeans actually found a way to sex the egg so they don't hatch the male eggs, thus negating the need to destroy male chicks. I'm guessing the technology costs money so it's unlikely that US factory farms would use it. Probably easier to kill the with the grinder.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's kind of a false dichotomy, between spending a lower amount of money (i.e. being poor), and being ethical. I think there's a lot more we could take issue with, on how society is structured, than accept this false dichotomy. There's a better universe out there where instead of having to use paper straws, we all just switch to biodegradable, and it is incentivized that people use metal straws. Same shit with this. There's a universe out there where we eat less meat, where this meat is more sustainably sourced and is locally sourced, which cuts down on logistics, and where, as a result, we don't have to pay 50 bucks for a frankly pretty gross chicken sandwich.

[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Capitalism is a race to the bottom. Maximum profit/gain and minimal loss.

Not to overly malign chicken sandwiches, but the point of capitalism is to charge the maximum that the market will bear while paying the least to extract it. And morals have nothing to do with capitalism. Even if it was mandated to have humane farming we would have a boutique pampered chicken sandwich (until they're mechanically separated in 35 seconds) and foreign-sourced bleached chicken.

Anyway I prefer the tortured beef from Burger King.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Capitalism is a race to the bottom.

Yeah. I agree. I was kind of more on the side that we should maybe not have a race to the bottom, if you can see what I'm getting at

edit: sorry if that didn't come across in my comment, I tend to not want to label every single thing as "capitalism is the problem bro!" because that puts people off, but then I kind of struggle with tiptoeing around the phrasing.

[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

To be fair, capitalism can work. But unfettered capitalism is pure greed. And right now nearly all of the guardrails have been removed.

Industry consolidation is out of control. Citizens United gave them unlimited political influence. Their lobbyists write the laws to govern them.

I'm waiting for the return of company towns. Amazon and Walmart are selling healthcare so we're edging closer.

We're not going to change things by voting in millionaires. Run for local office. Encourage like minded people to do the same. School boards, library boards, it's all about shifting thought. It won't be quick but it will work. Beau of the Fifth Column on has several videos about building community networks. The idea is that by bringing people together, it helps grow local power.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Jeez, either you are great at walking the line between idiotic and good sarcasm or you are not