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"A Billion Nazis at the Table" - The Fediverse model proves contextual moderation by real humans is both easy and affordable. The presence of Nazis on corporate social media implies at least a tacit a (www.staygrounded.online)

submitted 11 months ago by JustinHanagan@kbin.social to c/technology@lemmy.world

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"If you’ve ever hosted a potluck and none of the guests were spouting antisemitic and/or authoritarian talking points, congratulations! You’ve achieved what some of the most valuable companies in the world claim is impossible."

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[–] fubo@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You'd be surprised by how much of the Internet was built by furries, BDSM folk, and other people whose porn a lot of folks think is weird and icky.

Also, you seem to have misunderstood the gist of my comment, or I wasn't clear enough. The tools to deal with CSAM will of necessity be a lot stronger than content moderation that's driven by users' preferences of what they'd like not to see.

[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The issue is your categorization, and either rhe rhought, or lack of thought, that went into making them: "real csam", and "the icky stuff"

When you categorized the first as "real" it leaves a gap for the rest of "fake" and "implied" CSAM, which me, the reader, is left assuming goes in your other category, especially since your other category has no specifics, and we all know what CSAM is.That was the logic behind my comment:

"If somebody is tiptoeing around abusive material it's because they want to view abusive material."

Also I find it suspect that you've characterized the issue with CSAM material being that you can get in trouble for owning it, not that it wrecks somebody's fucking life to make...

Honestly I think you would be better off deleting your comment completely. White knighting the term "questionable pictures" in a public forum isn't a good look regardless of what you meant.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm talking about the necessities of moderation policy.

The things you think it's "suspect" I'm not saying? Those are things I think are obviously true and don't need to be restated. Yes, child abuse is very bad. We know that. I don't need to say it over again, because everyone already knows it. I'm talking specifically about the needs for moderation here.

I'm pointing at the necessary distinction between "you personally morally object to that material" and "that material will cause the law to come down on you and your users and anyone who peers with you".

You should have the ability to keep both of those off your server, but the latter is way more critical.

"White knighting"? Delete your account.

[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

"source provided" lmao