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[–] DolphinMath 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good thing Hamas only tells the truth! /s

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This has nothing to do with hamas. In general, hamas is either a terrorist organization, or a military resistant. In both case, you don't expect anything from them. Most of the resistant groups or terrorist organization are not expected to tell the truth or be expected to respect international laws.

Isreal, is "recognized" state and government by many countries, they have trades and embassies around the world and part of the United Nations.

When they work so hard to show media "proofs" of a calender posted on the wall, a few guns in the MRI machine rooms, and no sign of it being the center of gravity and they get caught lying by their own videos they published then maybe we should consider them a terrorist organization as well and treat them like that. Maybe we should sanction any one sending them money.

If they are that confident they should show the world evidence, which regardless of what they found, doesn't mean they can commit war crimes.

[–] DolphinMath 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Here’s my understanding of what you said.

  1. We expect Hamas to lie and disrespect international laws because they are a resistance group or a terrorist organization.

  2. Israel is different because they are “recognized” as a state by the UN and should be held to a different standard.

  3. You believe the IDF lied in their PR videos and we should consider them a terrorist organization.

  4. We need to see more and better evidence to back up IDF claims, but regardless of what evidence they produce their actions are war crimes.

With that understanding, I would like to add that Hamas is also a political organization and the ruling power in Gaza. No one can hold a position of authority in Gaza without the consent of Hamas. Hamas also has offices and leadership throughout the Middle-East. Two prominent examples are in Doha, Qatar, and Cairo, Egypt.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

The IDF has lied in their PR videos lol

This isn't a case of "believing"

[–] UnspecificGravity@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just to be clear: your reasoning here is that if a murderer hides out in an American hospital its totally legitimate just to blow it the fuck up to get at him, right?

[–] DolphinMath 1 points 1 year ago

No, that is not what I said and not what I believe.