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Some mix of wrong and right, the exact proportions of which I'll leave as an exercise to the reader.

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[–] Thief@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is a reason some of us chose to support Debian and its model of allowing downstream companies like Ubuntu (Canonical) to give back up to the open source father. And this is it. We dont need to compromise here. We already have a system that works perfectly and provides a choice for what suits you. If you are an enterprise then try Ubuntu instead of RHEL. If you are a home user you dont need enterprise support and can help us log bug reports and create the next version of Trixie. We need more testers and we have fought this long fight and proven we wont give up. What other proof do you need?

[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got a feeling that the kind of people that use Rocky or Alma linux would have a heart attack dealing with snap on ubuntu. Maybe they're better off switching to Debian LTS instead.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

As an inexperienced user, I can tell you that Debian is way harder to use than most people think. Out of the box, the distro is pretty bare ones. I'm having a blast using an Arch based distro, but on Debian I had to do everything manually. Stable is freaking old and unstable has lots of limitations, Docker for example is a true pain.

Ubuntu, Mint, Zorin, POP OS, are way better than Debian for users like me.

[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 14 points 1 year ago

Stable is freaking old

Red hat users would feel right at home, right?

[–] stanford@discuss.as200950.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reading this, I wonder if we talk about the same Debian 😆

[–] pwnna@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I hate configuring Linux distros which is why I use arch btw"

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Arch based, not the same thing. Crystal Linux bundles everything out of the box, so noobs like me don't have to do anything.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Stable is freaking old and unstable.

I ll give you old but not at all unstable, wonder what instability have you found in LTS.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

A lot of people (incorrectly) equate "stable" with "bug-free". So conversely, having bugs would be "unstable".

[–] SirAramis@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure the whole statement is

Stable is freaking old, and unstable has lots of limitations

I don't think they're saying Debian LTS is unstable.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly what my bad wording meant to say. Thank you for your extraordinary reading comprehension.

[–] gilbert31@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think he meant: Stable is freaking old. Unstable has a lot of limitations.

[–] tappyturtle@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m having a blast using an Arch based distro, but on Debian I had to do everything manually

how???

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Really? It works for me in my homelab

RHEL costs $600 a year. Its users can cope with debian easily.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There is a reason some of us chose to support Debian

It's amazing how some people have to learn the lesson that you can only trust non-profit foundations, not for-profit corporations, over and over again, and then even then it still somehow never seems to stick.