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Ultra-white ceramic cools buildings with record-high 99.6% reflectivity::undefined

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[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 106 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You know what also cools houses down super efficiently?

Trees

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Excellent - how many trees can I grow on my roof? Can they be retrofitted?

/s

[–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trees? Not many. Grasses, herbs, wildflowers, and shrubs? Tons of them. And you can pretty easily retrofit over an existing sloped roof. And the weight is no more than a tiled roof.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wetness could pose a problem to the structure

[–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not if you use a waterproof base layer. This isn't some theoretical thing, its tried and tested technology in common use

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well of course you'd use waterproof base layer, typically you'd use several even without the plants. It's tried and tested with multiple cases of failing with age. That's the issue. Even just flat roofs have been a failure point even without the plants but soil and plants are a definite concern for builders when talking long term.

[–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you a builder? Do you have any experience installing and maintaining green roofs? Your assertion than you'd typically use several waterproofing layers suggests not. I have experience building these systems in the real world and the documentation to support their use. BTW - flat roofs aren't a thing. Expect in traditional building in desert areas. "Flat" roofs aren't flat.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I'm a construction engineer, though I think that's just civil engineer in lot of the world.

BTW - flat roofs aren't a thing. Expect in traditional building in desert areas. "Flat" roofs aren't flat.

I assumed everyone knew what I meant. See some apartment building roofs.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kind of

There are eco apartments (planning idk about practice); grass on the roof and trees growing up the side

Lakehead University Orillia was going to do this for a new building but I don’t know what happened

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know what cools roofs and generates electricity? Magic!

Another trick: bifacial panels oriented to pick up the reflected light from highly reflective roofs

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

What about Ultra white ceramic trees?

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

True though this is still practical for folks who live in deserts and other treeless places

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They also dampen noise

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

but trees look gross