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Such as?
Security from psyops. Duh ..
Well, like I wrote in other comment of mine. Governments here issue personal certificates signed by government ones. These personal certificates can then be used to digitally sign documents and tax reports. It can be used to log into government web sites and many similar uses. These certificates that EU says browsers have to accept are the same ones everyone already uses for biometric passports. If browser accepted these root certificates, then things would be significantly easier to support. No software installation required.
People seem to think this will be used for nefarious cases, but in reality people just install government issued software without thinking. Well, any software without thinking. During that installation you can already add certificate to browser and whole OS. It's just easier and better supported if they go through public way instead of having to support multiple OS installations and similar issues.
Yeah that argument holds zero water. Forcing browsers to trust these roots means not only pre-trusting them, but disallowing removal of trust. This is completely intended for surveillance purposes.
Removal of trust happened many times in the past. And like I said, it's not changing anything other than making things easier. You can still add certificates to the browser trusted list if you have access to the person's computer, which when you install any software you do. Perhaps the best middle ground would be to add certificates but make them conditional that is to say ask the user what they want to do and offer multiple options. Trust for this domain only, trust always, just this time, don't trust.
Tell me you didn't read the article without telling me you didn't read the article. You can keep shilling for government surveillance if you want, but I'm done listening.
Am not shilling, am merely pointing out there are easier ways to spy on people without putting it through legal channels.
And another pointless argument. "They could spy on you easier means they're not."
I know I said I was done, but good lord. I can't tell if you are trying to troll or you're completely devoid of logic or reason.
Okay, so you officially refuse to think and just want to wear a tinfoil hat. Good luck with that. Leave the rest of us out of it. Seeing conspiracy theories everywhere and then go online to argue and paying for bills pretty much negates everything you say.