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[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 195 points 1 year ago (3 children)

WTF why did no one mention this to me when I was struggling with math as a kid?

[–] thisfro 125 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They probably did, just not explicitly:

You could write (6*1/100)*50 = 6*(50*1/100)

It only uses the commutative property of multiplication and the fact that % is another way of writing 1/100.

Maybe also worth remembering that "x% of y" is just x/100*y

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Ravi@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The word percent is exactly that per cent, which basically means parts of hundred. E.g. 10% are 10 of 100, or 60% are 60 of 100. You can also write this mathematically as 60/100 or 60÷100, which is 0.6.

Now in general: x% are x parts of 100 or x/100 or x÷100. If you want to calculate x% of y you just multiply it: y × x% = y × x ÷ 100.

[–] Someasy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is one of those "maths is magical" moments, I guess.

[–] Someasy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] thisfro 0 points 1 year ago
[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I totally remember being taught this. It's just way easier to break down percentages in terms of the nearest 1% or 10% times the number in the percent times the number you're taking the percentage of. You don't have to do the math for the 1 or 10 percentage as long as you remember that a 10% means move the decimal left once and 1% means move the decimal left twice. The rest is just basic multiplication.

40% of 59 = 10% of 59 times 4.

So...

4x59=236

or

(4x50=200) + (4x9=36)= 236

10% means move the decimal left once,

Therefore 40% of 59 is 23.6

With that you can easily do more complex percentages mentally like...

62% of 35 = 10% of 35 times 6 plus 1% of 35 times 2.

35x6=180+30=210 at 10% so 21

plus

35x2=60+10=70 at 1% so 0.7

Therefore 62% of 35 = 21.7

[–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

While I get your sentiment, I'm always baffled how people fail to just memorize some basic formulas/equations and then just to plug and play:

1÷kⁿ = k⁻ⁿ

% = 1÷100 = 10⁻²

k×10ⁿ equals k with its floating point shifted by n to the right for positive n, or to the left for negative n

That's really all one needs to know for the "problem" at hand. For your concrete example of "40% of 59" that would just be

59×40×10⁻²

Just solve that whatever way is easiest. I don't get why people get panic-stricken when they see the % sign.

[–] BaronDoggystyleVonWoof@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously, why didn't anyone?! Would have made my life much easier.

[–] match@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

they absolutely taught you the commutative property and transitive property

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah but they clearly taught it poorly

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Easy way to do %

Say you want 6% of 45

Seems hard right?

1% of 45 is .45

.45 × 6 =

.4 × 6 = 2.4

.05 × 6 = .3

2.4 + .3 = 2.7

So 6% of 45 is 2.7

Extra:

Say you want an item that is 40 dollars and it is 20% off.

10% is 4 dollars.

20% is 8 dollars.

So item would be 32 dollars.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

that's a shitload of lines of math to write out/work in your head. I learned percentages of x as: 6 * 45 / 100 = x (2.7) If you picture both as fractions, you multiply the opposite and then divide by the other number to get the missing one (x). Hopefully Lemmy renders this well...

6 x
100 45

The way I learned it was multiply diagonally and then divide by whatever is opposite diagonally to x.