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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

According to Marx, the capitalist will always dismiss all other concerns than their own gain, and will lie and murder for their ill-gotten gains.

The 21st century teems of examples

This week's Behind the Bastards (about the capture of Christianity by capitalism) tells about the exact same thing in the 1930s and 1940s (parallel with the rise of fascism). The same give us all the money push was happening tgen as now, only now the campaign is bigger.

Fuck these guys. They're no better than nineteenth century railroad tycoons

Edit 2024-01-14: Markup.

[–] Excrubulent 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, same podcast made the point in their episodes about the Hawk's Nest Tunnel Project, and how it was recent history even though it sounds like some medieval horror story. These fucks haven't changed, and the same company that profited off that brutality is still around and still making money hand over fist and never reckoned with their crimes.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I say that if corporations have the benefits of personhood, they should also have the responsibilities and liabilities of a personhood. Kill 5 people due to clear negligence? Company comes under government control (prison) for the same amount of time as a regular person would for the same crime.

Kill hundreds? The company is dissolved and the responsible people are jailed.

Oh, and companies are represented by a random public defender from that jurisdiction.

That'd get some things fixed real quick.

[–] Excrubulent 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That would certainly be more just, but to do that you'd need to reverse what is effectively their complete regulatory capture.

To do that you'd need to create a situation where money wasn't liquid power.

To do that you'd need to dismantle capitalism.

So at that point corporations aren't a thing anymore.

I say we do that. Like if we're dreaming, let's dream big.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 2 points 10 months ago

That sounds about correct.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 2 points 10 months ago

They’re no better than nineteenth century railroad tycoons

It literally the same people or their descendants in most cases.