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Bubba Copeland shot himself in front of police on Friday, days after he begged 1819 News not to expose his private life.

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[–] catboss@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think that is a statistic we should work on changing. There is still a lot research to be done, but it is possible that poedophilia is not so different fron being sexually attracted to people of your own gender. Your brain is just wired differently, in the case of pedophilia wrong. But you don't exactly get to pick if and how you are born.

Societies outlaw living out these sexual desires for obvious reasons, which (in better parts of the world) obviously don't apply if you on the other hand e.g. have consensual sexual experiences between two adults of the same sex.

Obviously sexual acts between adults and kids are not okay, no argument there. That is why we outlaw it, rightfully so. We can, (usually want) and definitely should protect all babies, childen and young adults in our societies. Doesn't mean you are a waste of oxygen if you have pedophilic urges, but don't act upon them. There is also without a doubt a higher rate of suicides among those people. It is not a net positive.

The human sex drive is very strong, so despite having rules against non consensual or considered unacceptable sexual urges, people live those out. Sexual harassment is a better example for this.

My hope would be that someday we can somehow effectively help people who are sexually attracted to babies, kids and underage people without incarceration. There is already drugs that can supress any kind of sexual desire. We just don't do enough research on this topic, because helping people struggling with pedophilic thoughts (especially those not having done anything wrong and never choosing that life) is a very unpopular topic. So we rather avoid it.

That goes for a lot of other mental illness like narcissistic or psychopathic disorders that tend to cause harm if lived out as well.

Not helping people afflicted by what we consider malfunctions of the human brain and letting them slide into more mental health problems, which might ultimately lead to their suicide is NOT a net positiv, is is a net negative. Always will be, unless you got your priorities wrong or can't feel empathy.

[–] First@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My statement wasn't about what's "morally right", it was an example of a suicide that the average person will consider a net gain for society.

A civilized society should obviously not have as its' goal to make parts of its' inhabitants kill themselves - the podcast that I got the statistic from was actually an interview with a police officer who worked on monitoring related internet activities, and proactively confronting said individuals to offer preventative chemical castration and therapy sessions. That still doesn't change the fact that most would rather just see those kinds of people gone, at least after they're convicted/proven to act upon their urges.

[–] catboss@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay, I see that as valuable context to what you wrote before and mostly agree. Thanks for adding that.

Though I also want to protect children from sexual abuse by adults, which is about the worst thing one can do, I do believe nevertheless it is still the right thing to try and help even the worst among us after they served their time, need rehabilitation more than ever and if they want and can be helped of course.

That's a whole different topic to what happened to the man in thr article and I don't want to go down this specific rabbithole any further. I hope that's okay with you.

[–] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is still a lot research to be done, but it is possible that poedophilia is not so different fron being sexually attracted to people of your own gender.

Societies outlaw living out these sexual desires for obvious reasons

Oh wonderful, the regressives are here with their whole "homosexuals are pedophiles" shtick.

[–] catboss@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They obviously aren't, don't be a dimwit.

[–] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They obviously aren’t, don’t be a dimwit.

No need to deny it, you know I was referring to you.

[–] catboss@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since we clearly reached the "no, you!" stage of this argument and there is evidently no point in going forward, let me wish you a great day and you take care of yourself.

[–] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Since we clearly reached the “no, you!” stage of this argument

I'd say we reached the stage where you realize people saw through you to the shitty regressive you really are.

let me wish you a great day and you take care of yourself.

Thanks. I wish you realize how much your shitty politics hurt people and change.