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Bubba Copeland shot himself in front of police on Friday, days after he begged 1819 News not to expose his private life.

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[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it does not appear he had taken any public positions against LGBTQ issues that could be construed as hypocritical

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Except for being a member of the anti LGBTQ party.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, but so is Caitlyn Jenner...

[–] DTFpanda@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How anybody takes someone like that seriously is beyond me

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You've got me. I don't understand why any trans person would be a Republican, but I guess money trumps all when you're rich.

[–] gkd@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because they (wrongly) believe that being “one of the good ones” will save them from being targeted by republicans and their proposed legislation like Project 2025

That doesn’t mean people who have previously voted red are in the wrong (lots of internalized homophobia can lead to opposite beliefs). But once you realize your identity and continue to vote against yours and other people’s human rights, you’re absolutely in the wrong.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure there were slaves that actively sought to maintain slavery. In some cases, they had relatively decent lives compared to other slaves and even some free black people.

[–] DreamerofDays@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would imagine that becoming mayor in certain parts of the country is much easier if you’re a member of the dominant party in the region.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Or existing in society at all. Sometimes in those parts of the country the first question upon meeting someone is "what church do you go to".

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He didn't have to become mayor.

[–] DreamerofDays@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

No, he didn’t. But people get to want things. Sometimes they want things for themselves, sometimes they want things for their communities.

[–] rchive@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You can disagree with your party on one issue. There are tons of Democrats who are opposed to increased gun control, for example.

[–] darq@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it's not just "an issue". We are talking about a demographic and their legal recognition. No I'm sorry but we cannot agree to disagree on something so fundamental as equal treatment of people.

It's not comparable gun control.

[–] rchive@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I'm talking about whether people are physically capable of breaking with their party on a single issue. They obviously are.

Gallup poll

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Disagreeing on policy is one thing; disagreeing on human rights is another. You cannot be a Republican and have respect for queer rights at the same time. It has to be a 100% deal-breaker.

[–] rchive@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you're talking about. There are tons of Republicans who support gay rights in some fashion, even if it's not a majority position within the party.

Gallup poll

[–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, there are precisely zero Republicans who support gay rights. What you've cited is a poll showing some who claim to, but are lying. Their deeds, not their words, prove their true intentions.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How likely are those Democrats to get bullied to the point of suicide if their "secret" of being against increased gun control was to come out? Or to preemptively commit suicide in anticipation of the bullying they're going to receive?

This is not the same thing. Democrats are, generally speaking, flexible about a lot of their positions. It's how they wind up with problem members like Manchin and Sinema. The Republican party is very different.

[–] rchive@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not the right comparison. He didn't commit suicide because he was ashamed of supporting gay rights, he was ashamed of wanting to cross dress and of having engaged in the activity. Regardless of politics, that's a pretty uncommon behavior. Most people don't want other people to know they're a sexual deviant of some kind. I'd guess that this behavior is much more maligned in conservative circles than liberal or left, for sure, but the point is that it's not just the breaking from the standard beliefs of that side.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I’d guess that this behavior is much more maligned in conservative circles than liberal or left

And that, right there, is exactly my point.

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Good luck trying to get the terminally online to understand the nuances and complexities of the human condition