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please post any subsequent updates here unless they're huge happenings. i just woke up and half our news front page is updates which is nice but also A Lot and most of these don't have to be their own thread

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[–] fidodo@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It might cause more issues in those states but wouldn't each of them be weaker? I don't know how to fix Russia, but if it can't be fixed I'd rather they not be strong enough to attack other countries.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Depends on whether they'll manage to get control of the nukes. They're likely stashed all around the nation, but the question is how difficult it would be to gain launch capability, since the existing infrastructure would likely not be usable by local militaries.

We're also talking about the potential suffering of millions of people.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chances are decent that the nukes don't work any more, so that may not be a threat at all.

I'm still reluctant to put that hypothesis to the test, though, for obvious reasons…

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I doubt the tritium is being reliably refilled, but a second stage fizzle is still a disaster, and I'm sure at least some of them can still create a sizable explosion

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Right you are. I also wonder whether the rockets all still work, but as you say, at least some of them probably still do.

If the local economies fail to sustain and source advanced material and components needed for the infrastructure, it might end up not being a big problem.

I imagine the nations would end up falling under the control of other nations, such as China, who does not desire nuclear war.

But yes, it would very much still be a humanitarian nightmare for those places.

[–] Cannacheques 2 points 1 year ago

I doubt anyone would seriously want to fire a nuke even if the country fell into a civil war.

It's more of a saying or sentiment so to speak - that the system could be nuked and people would perhaps arguably be better off to reform from scratch, with the knowledge of hindsight rather than with the current difficulties.

[–] Cannacheques 1 points 1 year ago

You would think they could take a page from Japan's history or perhaps Germany now that they've gone and done what they done.