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[–] graymess@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You mean the Democrats/Liberals who still have detention camps and support the genocide in Gaza?

To answer your question, what is meant by "both parties are the same" is that neither side has any interest in solving the root causes of virtually every issue within the country and abroad. Democrats and Republicans put the interests of the wealthiest and the preservation of capitalism ahead of all else. It's a bit unfair to say that everything the parties publicly fight over is a distraction from the conflict between the ultra rich and everyone else when fascism can and does create horrible outcomes for the less privileged. But it's certainly a convenience for Democrats to be able to say, "at least we're not Trump" while offering nothing else to those suffering under the constant shift to the right.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Democrats/Liberals who still have detention camps

Who wrote this talking point? The Heritage Foundation, or The GRU?

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Could also be IRGC, who is having a field day with how Hamas managed to fracture the US left in a hot second. Went from "2024 elections looking pretty good, maybe there's hope for progressive causes", to "who knows what's going to happen now" and Hamas being treated like a reliable news source by mainstream media mere days after commiting the largest terror attack in their history. We're totally fucked.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This, they've basically been running on "not trump", sorry that's not good enough for me.

[–] III@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Your alternative is Trump. There isn't a third option at this point. So if not Trump isn't good enough for you...then actual Trump is? Your logic is bad, you should feel bad.

[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Granted, out of two options, not trump is better, but it's still not good enough. If the choice was to have no food, or to have some food but still not enough.

I would still choose to have some food over no food but saying my logic is bad for saying that the options available still aren't good enough isnt particularly helpful. We can demand better while still not choosing the worst option.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

There are alternatives, we had Bernie running twice, Marianne Williamson, Cornell West, Howie Hawkins, etc... but the Democratic party actively works against them.

[–] atyaz@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

"Your options in this country are someone actively enabling a genocide, or a pseudo-fascist" -> that country can burn in hell for all I care

[–] 9thSun@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago