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I have a feeling that the answer to this might be anything that you can grow from seeds. So, fresh fruits, vegetables, beans, grains, etc. then, like tomatoes or snow peas or apples or wheatberries. The thing is that these all take time to transform from seed to fruit, so if you include time in your constraint space these don't work. But you didn't so here you go :D
As someone attempting to grow from seed here in Central Texas:
It would be SO MUCH cheaper for me to buy store bought.
You have to factor in a watering costs, soil quality, fertilizer costs, and time commitment. Oh and potentially overhauling large swaths of your yard to grow crops and flowers to encourage enough pollinators to show up.
I spent probably over $1,500 this year getting my yard in suitable enough shape to grow, after a complete bust on any kind of yield last year. I also grow herbs indoors, and yes that can be more cost effective. That isn't to say it's not worth it, I'm about to have an insane yield of tomatoes that I won't know what to do with. I currently get to make my own fresh bruschetta every week with home grown basil and tomatoes. I get fresh strawberries off the vine every day, though the bushels aren't very large. If all goes according to plan, I'll also have some bell peppers and okra later in the season. All grown from seed. I have morning glory and passion flower vines that have volunteered all over parts of the yard, the latter being a critical food source for butterflies, so I now have a few dozen butterflies flapping around on a given day. I also have a ton of volunteer sunflowers after setting up bird feeders with black oil sunflower seeds as feed.
It's wonderful, my yard is slowly rewilding and I love being able to grow a little food. It'll get cheaper over the next few years to maintain. But it certainly was not cheap to get here! Container gardening is cheaper, but you still have to have the right light sources and watering schedule. If you live somewhere naturally rainy and sunny in equal measure, and the climate isn't trying to kill you, then it might be cost effective. It was at one point in time. But it isn't here, now. Still worth it for me though.
Yeah only cheap if you don't include your time. And the cost of land. But as a Florida food gardener - OKRA is like nothing else. It grows even in the summer here, is beautiful, the flowers are lovely and my whole family loves it. If you grow it, you can pick them when younger, and the few you inevitably miss, save for seeds. Nutritious and delicious, and in hot climates, cheap.
Beans are the obvious answer to the OP's puzzle though. Beans and rice, build up your spice cabinet, endless variety and so delicious, cheap, and healthy.
I tell ya, I tried okra last year and it was a total bust. Had enough seeds to try again this year, started them indoors. Of the 10 seedlings I sprouted, six made it into the ground in March, and only two are still growing. They're by far my slowest growers, but the good news is they look like they're finally picking up speed and are looking strong. They're about 18"-2' tall now. I hope they survive the next 3 months set to have more 100*+ days than not.
Our summer has 95-99F but rain everyday, the okra absolutely thrives in the heat, the hotter the better as far as I could tell. The flowers really are beautiful too. I didn't do it this year (rotating to avoid nematodes that love okra as much as we do), peppers are doing ok and tomatoes, basil, watermelon. Eggplant. Still waiting for the rain this year though.
My winter garden was unfortunately destroyed when we had a very unusual freeze.
I stick to native heirlooms and sturdy heat tolerant hybrids and managed broccoli this spring, was absolutely stunned that it worked. Never imagined it could grow here.
That's awesome!! Natives are where it's at. I got a bunch of drought tolerant natives for the side and front yard, where I don't have an automatic drip hose set up, and they're all thriving just fine.
I'm not sure what to rotate in for the fall garden. Or next year's, for that matter. I've learned so much and in so many ways I still feel like a complete novice! How do you go about planning your gardens?
Honestly I browse Johnny's seeds with a filter on for "heat tolerant", and thanks to my ex (who was a raving violent lunatic in his midlife but did have a wide knowledge of plants and creatures) I do know what grows here. Winter is always greens, and cilantro likes our winter so cilantro/coriander always. Plus a couple of reach things, experimental.
I tried to do beans in fall/winter because they are a staple and good for the dirt but the once in 15 years freeze killed them. But had successful collard greens, broccoli (Green Magic, cannot say enough good things about it, it survived both the freeze and the heat, the dry and the rain), fennel did shockingly well, romaine and arugula.
Summer this time is basil, watermelon, tomatoes, eggplant in the shade of the tomatoes, jalapenos and habaneros and purple sweet sweet potato - the watermelon and sweet potato are the experimental ones, not sure they will work. Started the sweet potato from a Stokes Purple from whole foods.
Oh and mint all the time in one of the planters, the one with tomatoes and eggplant now. I cut it back brutally once in awhile but it just lives there.
I mostly just try to rotate so nothing is in the same place twice in a row. Except the mint. It's tough as nails and nothing here really attacks it.
If I was in Texas I think it would be beans and peppers all the time! I eat so much of them and beans can take the heat but don't like our rain, peppers too taste so good when grown in dry climate.
Woah that was long. But a mix of heat tolerant hybrids from Johnny's seeds & plants from a local grower. I get dirt from same local guy, it's amazing and our soil in this yard is unusual for Tampa already, not so sandy.
I love all of this, thank you so much for going into such detail! I've seen Johnny's seeds online, and was curious to order from them, but I didn't know how reliable they were. I'll go take a look at their stuff.
I've been getting soil, mulch and compost from a wholesale landscape supply place. Unfortunately I didn't haul off my sandy turf mix entirely, so now the grass has grown over and there's a lil hill on the side of my front lawn, oops. Way too hot to do jack squat about it right now, though!!
A good homegrown tomato slice with some salt & pepper is delicious, beats store bought any day.
Mmmm... Fresh Snow Peas. I used to grow them in the winter here in North Florida and my son (who was like 4-5 at the time) would sneak into my garden and eat them all. He would refuse to eat his vegetables at dinner then "go play outside" thinking he was getting away with murder 😁
To be fair, they were fucking delicious. Far more sweet than store-bought or even fresh from a local farmers market. I have no idea why 🤷
I should really start growing food again. I stopped like a decade ago when I lost the great stink bug war ☹️
I live in a new house now with a much larger bird, snake, lizard, and frog army to defend the crops. I even have snail-eating-snail shock troops to deploy on a moments notice if need be. It might be time to lay out some war plans...