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alt texttweet by amtrak ben: i think we should build high speed rail next to freeways only because it would make drivers feel like complete losers all the time

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[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is the case in Germany, and it's glorious. The fastest people on the Autobahn drive around 200 km/h, whereas the trains sometimes travel at 320 km/h. Always fun to see the slow cars!

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Likewise Spain with the AVE. Cars are speed limited to 130 max I think, so it looks like the cars are stopped.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if Deutsche Bahn is the best example of this. ICE's maximum speed only means you usually end up leaving when you are supposed to be arriving.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, Deutsche Bahn is the place where I experience exactly what the meme is suggesting. Should I have mentioned another rail service I don't know and haven't experienced?

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2023/oct/08/german-train-travel-deutsche-bahn-kafka explains it better than I could in a single comment. Searching for "Verzögerungen im Betriebsablauf" will give you more examples of the mess Deutsche Bahn's operations are.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know that the delays are a mess. But I'll ask again: why should I talk about some different rail service that I have never used instead of the one I have used?

It's not like the trains don't drive at high speeds due to the delays. I sat in them and experienced what the meme describes. And now I'm not supposed to mention it as an example because of train delays? What?

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

god, driving at 200km/h is so insane

[–] youRFate@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Ya, I also wish those slowpokes would get out of my way…

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm sure newer cars are much better at it, but 150 is already scary enough in my 2012 model. It doesn't handle bumps well at 130, I don't want to test fate.

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

It's not a question of age, but of the car model. Any german upper middle class car from (at least) the 80s onwards was able to comfortably go 180–200 km/h, upper class > 200 km/h, lower middle class 160–200, smaller cars provide an adventurous driving experience at 150 km/h.

There shouldn't be bumps on the autobahn.

[–] justJanne@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

No, driving a moving truck (that's small enough to not full under the separate speed limit for trucks) at 200km/h is insane. Seen that before ^^

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Stuttgart - Köln is one of the connections that go max speed, and it really is glorious.

But I don't think there's actually that many places the ICE can go that fast, is there?

[–] rmean@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Not a whole lot, then. But then again, even 160km/h is faster than the average speed you'd travel at on the Autobahn

[–] justJanne@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

I posted this comment already elsewhere in this thread, but lemme quote myself:

The ICE's max speed depends on model and variies from 250km/h to 300km/h. These speeds can be reached on:

  • Hannover-Würzburg (280km/h)
  • Mannheim-Stuttgart (280km/h)
  • Oebisfelde-Berlin (250km/h)
  • Siegburg-Frankfurt (300km/h)
  • Köln-Düren (250km/h)
  • Rastatt-Offenburg & Schliengen-Haltingen (250km/h)
  • Nürnberg-Ingolstadt (300km/h)
  • Ebensfeld-Leipzig/Halle (300km/h)
  • Wendlingen-Ulm (250km/h)

There are more of these tracks currently under construction:

  • Stuttgart-Wendlingen (250km/h)
  • Bashaide-Rastatt (250km/h)

And many more are currently in the planning stage:

  • Hamm-Bielefeld (300km/h)
  • Oebisfelde-Berlin (300km/h)
  • Ulm-Augsburg (300km/h)
  • Gelnhausen-Fulda (250km/h)
  • Frankfurt-Mannhein (300km/h)
  • Bielefeld-Hannover (300km/h)
  • Nürnberg-Würzburg (300km/h)
[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes? How about this decade old French record?

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do all trains in France always drive that fast? If not it's also sometimes, so...