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Exposure brings attention, attention brings solution. To be ignored is to never be fixed
People don’t have a problem with the exposure, the have a problem with someone making money off it.
Although if I’m being honest, I’m a bit jealous that this even works. Just a bit. This does parallel snuff films though which absolutely disgusting. For all we know its directly connected to people who provide that dark web content.
Are you joking right now or is that really how you think the world works?
I guess you don’t know
I know that you've been led into a weird way of thinking, likely by people who benefit by you being misled.
You’re wasting your time and you all already know that.
I know what you mean but I don't think so, I'm genuinely fascinated by the thinking behind the original comment.
I watched some of the recorded live streams and the people in chat are generally being respectful, some idiots of course but less than I've seen on volcano streams and NASA launches tbh. It really seems unlikely that there's a shared audience with this and snuff movies.
Assuming, against all evidence, that they even exist. RedRoom was very clearly a LARP and while there have been many terrible things exposed as yet there has never been real evidence of anything resembling a murder for entertainment industry anywhere on the darkweb.
It's an easy rumour to propagate because by it's nature the expectation of proof is low, the classic 'no for real my buddy saw it' or 'i can't show you what I've seen, you don't want to see it anyway...' is all we can expect - it's something salacious and scary, forbidden knowledge... The ultimate ghost story.
Except of course we should expect more evidence of it if it existed, police and news reports for example. The commonly used in media 'my informant that looked at this thing that's illegal said...' when what they mean is 'i looked but I don't want to get arrested' - where are the documentaries with blurred footage of laptop screens? Where are the police reports saying 'we need a whole load of money to investigate this genuine problem?
There's no end of videos of people dying or being murdered online, but no evidence of any communities creating videos of murder for money. If that community does exist somewhere then it's certainly not the same people running it as are restreaming livecams of a Philadelphia street corner.
It’s a fucking YouTube stream who cares lol
If you don’t want to be shown as a crackhead on the internet don’t be a crackhead in public
Even though I agree with you that you shouldn't look away, there are two things that bother me:
If I understand correctly, this is completely unmoderated. This means it is up to the viewer how they interpret what they see.
In addition, the income should be made available to solve the problem. But it seems like someone is just putting it in their pocket.
I don't think the income from this would make the slightest dent...
Also, moderation? I haven't seen the stream but I imagine people stumbling, or performing sexual acts in exchange for drugs and such. There aren't many ways to 'interpret' it imo, at least not worse than it is
And if it were just a few dollars that were made available to the social workers there... That would be something, right?
And by moderation I mean that someone should explain what you see and thus point out dangers. Over and over again. They should try to rule out that anyone has fun watching these sad fates.
I totally agree, a charity trying to raise awareness and help the problem should be running it.
I'm watching now and from what I can tell it doesn't appear to be a monetized account as no adverts have shown, there's not been a single donation either only a lot of comments about how awfull the situation is. there are moderators in the chat though it's impossible to tell on a recorded stream how many comments they're removing.
Really it's just a street cam, you can see loads of them in all sorts of areas - it's different because there are lots of people buying drugs and hanging around but they're doing it on a public street so why should this one be any different to the popular time square or rue de mars streams?
Overall my take-home is that after watching fifteen minutes of it I'm somewhat less likely to do heroin today, and that's probably a good thing. These people's lives haven't changed because I've seen them buy and consume drugs, when you're smoking crack on a cold street it's not like every one in you life can't tell. It's sad but it's a reality hiding from won't help either.