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Musk has already been banned as a topic on tech communities in 4 instances I’ve seen personally. I get folks are tired of him and I find him insufferable, but he is often relevant (unfortunately) to current events, so I don’t think wholesale bans of him are a good idea. There are plenty of topics I find annoying, but I don’t tell people to ban the topic from the community just for my personal preference.
Like I think trump is a cringe inducing piece of shit and don’t enjoy seeing him everywhere. I’d love a filter, I don’t expect communities to ban him as a topic.
Yeah but relevant to current tech events? Not that often.
It's complicated I guess.
Musk offering starlink access to gaza is tech news, him changing subscription prices for xitter is not.
I guess I just mean that a happening is not "tech" by virtue of musk saying it.
He owns starlink, Twitter, Tesla, and SpaceX. Whether we like it or not all of these have huge bearings on their respective industries.
And before people started hating musk, again rightfully so I’m embarrassed I ever liked him, you couldn’t go a day without something about SpaceX and people getting all excited. This is purely about the person, not the relevance of the topics.
If y’all could somehow come up with a nuanced soft ban on “his personal life“ and politics or whatever, I guess that’s a decent compromise? But that just sounds tedious and people will bicker. And also his politics unfortunately have an impact on how Twitter is run, so you would have to find ways to separate those things out. It’s just seems kind of needless.
I mean imagine if we couldn’t spread the word/learn of what he was doing with his starlink satellites and Ukraine/Russia. That stuff is really important.
The nuanced soft ban you're talking about is just the topic of the community.
When musk does something tech related that's tech. When he does something that's not tech related that's off topic.
Twitter is a social media website it's not tech.
Honestly I think it's weird that people think social media is tech.
The product itself (the code) may be considered tech but the company's/employee's/executive's business/personal/anything outside of the product dealings shouldn't be. If running a website makes any information related to you tech related then literally every company is a tech company. Meta's stock price dropping because Zuckerbot farted in a kindergarten classroom isn't anything tech related. Subscription fees being added or increased isn't tech related.
How would you define tech with regards to social media and how does that definition not include any other company running a website that you can interact with?
I said the code is the tech and then gave examples of what isn't tech. What else do you want? The dictionary definition is
which points even further away from social media being tech IMO.
The irony here. You've made zero argument other than "not uh!" and expect me to keep repeating what I've already stated in good faith. I focused on social media companies because that's what you had an issue with. Nobody disputes whether companies like Microsoft, SpaceX, Intel, and Apple are tech companies. The dispute here is whether Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc are really tech companies and more specifically whether any news surrounding these companies should be considered tech news (which you've already been given examples of) rather than just news about their actual tech products.
Nobody stated that.
Once again I'll ask you to define what you think social media companies are and how that definition doesn't include every other company with a web presence. Are you or are you not able to do that?
Still can't form an actual argument? What seems to be the issue here? You seemed to have such strong convictions in your point of view earlier.
I got about the same out of this guy. He acts so cocksure when dismissing others opinions but can't even seem to formulate his own counterpoint. It's just a one-sided discussion and this person has zero to offer to the conversation other than nitpicking and Socratic questions that lead nowhere.
To exclude social
News about a tech company is usually just business news and not news about tech though. Just like most Twitter news that gets posted on here.
Anything about the daily runnings of a company, it's personnel and other business decisions is not news about tech, no matter what the company is. Tech news should be about the technology. New breakthroughs, new coding language releases, new hardware etc.
Edit: and to be a tech company is a company that creates tech, not always just one that uses it. I could be on the side of social media companies being tech companies, but that doesn't mean all news about said companies are tech news, because they are not.
Most of what he does is talking, with a pinch of false advertisement and stock manipulation thrown in the mix.
But I'm happy about any actual developments! I'm super hyped for the next starship launch for example.
I mean anything anyone does on the internet is tech given they do it on the internet.
Musk is largely just being a shitty ceo doing ceo things, kinda notably for cultural reasons, sure, but musk news probably better serves as more business news than tech.