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So, to get this out of the way, I'm a cisgender white man from a well-off family in a fairly affluent town. I'm making this post because I want to hear perspectives from those who are different from and likely significantly more knowledgeable than me. (Literally as I was writing this post, I came to the epiphany that I should probably more properly educate myself on socialism.)

TL;DR: What is your opinion on giving money to houseless people you see IRL?

I like to consider myself socialist/progressive in thought---in favor of wealth redistribution via various methods, live and let live, freedom for everyone as long as you're not materially harming anyone, etc.---but I grew up in a fairly conservative household (more socially than fiscally, but even then). Being in a rich area, I never really saw houseless people around unless I went to one of the nearby cities, and the general policy was keep walking and don't look. My parents definitely raised me to be kind and generous, but more in a detached "give to charity" way.

Rather recently, I've really embraced this idea of being socialist, and I've become very free with giving my money in particular (though I'm aware I could do more, like join a DSA branch or somethin'). I love giving to non-profit organizations when I can, I support creators I like on Patreon. I've even started giving to people on Fedi who I've seen need money for whatever reason. Spread the wealth, right?

Now, things have changed where I live, and even in my rich lil burb, you can usually find at least one refugee or houseless person when you go out to a grocery store or something. I just saw a guy who was standing outside a grocery store asking for spare change, and it was a rare occasion that I actually had cash in my wallet. On my way out, I gave it to him. Simple.

But I feel weird about it. I have all these ideas in my head from White America saying that they'll just buy alcohol or drugs with it or that they're scamming me or anything else like that. Then on the other hand, I think that it's just as likely (if not more) that they're going to spend it on things they actually need to live and how it's not my job to police how they use their money. And then on the third hand, I think that maybe it would be better to donate money to organizations that help out houseless people than just giving money to random people. Then on the fourth hand---you get the idea.

For those of you who actually read the whole post and didn't stop at the TL;DR, I have a few questions:

  1. Why in God's name did you actually read this whole thing?
  2. Are these feelings normal or am I just a self-centered prick?
  3. What are your opinions on giving money to houseless people you just randomly meet?
  4. As a bonus question for the socialists out there: Any recs on socialism learning resources for someone who likes reading, but doesn't like reading books?

For those of you who made it all the way to the end, thank you for reading my neurotic ramblings.


EDIT: I didn't really expect this to blow up... but thank you all so much for your perspectives on everything. It was exactly what I was hoping for and exactly what I didn't think I was going to get. I tried to read everything and I feel simultaneously less conflicted, but definitely more... not confused, but maybe full of ideas?

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[–] BuxtonWater@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. I can read quick and you put it in proper paragraphs so it wasn't a pain to read.
  2. Yes they're normal, you're just trying to judge who you feel is most in need of what you can give.
  3. If I have the money on me and can spare it then I'll do it, but that very rarely happens as I don't carry my wallet most of the time.

Personally my policy is to give them money even if they use it for drugs, as a former addict myself that money will keep them alive physically or mentally, and or both no matter what. And that is worth the short term damage of them potentially using it for drugs, it gives them another period of time (days, weeks, etc) to choose to change for the better. It's a very painful and embarassing thing to ask another person for money for drugs (subtly or non-subtly), very painful.

But it's better than resorting to theft or dying depending on what you're addicted to. Withdrawal is absolute hell and I would if the situation arose give an addict in active withdrawal money to get out of it without much hesitation.

[–] miracleorange@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally my policy is to give them money even if they use it for drugs, as a former addict myself that money will keep them alive physically or mentally, and or both no matter what.

That's definitely what I was thinking: even if they're going to buy drugs, maybe they'll be able to do it safer. I love the idea of harm reduction and am aware of the studies that say how it helps. And congrats on kicking your addiction!

I can read quick and you put it in proper paragraphs so it wasn’t a pain to read.

I tutor English for a living and constantly stress to my students the importance of breaking things into paragraphs. As someone with ADHD, I write the way I'd like to read, so thank you for that comment lol

[–] BuxtonWater@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly, harm reduction is the main game, with prevention (just not having people get addicted to start) being the ideal worked toward these days in most if not all competent drug rehabitlitation programs. And thanks, heroin is a monster, you slide into it so easily and then suddenly you’re a year later screaming in agony across your whole body, depressed, anxious, cold and hot, and all of that disappears with a single line of that shit. So I am damn glad I don't have that happening every month anymore.

And also potential ADHD haver here (diagnosis appointments are set for next month), proper structure of paragraphs and sentences makes everything read so much easier for me too.