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[–] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 193 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Continuing in personally attacking Engoron, he raged, "He’s an out of control 'Nut Job,' who fined me $10,000 over a ridiculous Gag Order

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe instead of a fine, it'll any amount of jail time instead.

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Violations of gag orders and contempt always feel infuriatingly "gradual" because usually people just STFU after the first one. Trump (as we all know) doesn't have the self control normal asshole defendants have. Give it another gag violation and this moron is gonna spend the night in jail, then we all get to see him without his daily hair routine. That shit scares him more than anything.

Once Chutkan's gag goes back into effect, he'll be in jail quickly unless Kise or Lauro actually manage to get through his thick skull with an air hammer.

E: Also getting the idea that Engoron is patient enough not to expand the gag order (yet, anyway) because he knows he's already effectively ended the Trump organization. Trump's business "empire" is basically a dead man walking already.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about the direct grifting he's doing? Someone needs to find a way to seize those assets and end that supply of money.

[–] thenightisdark@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I feel bad for the victims but as PT Barnum said there's a sucker born every minute. Trump is tapped into a large number of suckers.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (8 children)

A short stay in jail won't break Donnie. It will energize his followers, and we'll have to hear them comparing him to Mandela and MLK for the next century.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the mugshots without his hair and makeup will go a long way in deflating not only his ego, but also the cult of personality built on his ego.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All his followers look in the mirror every morning. He is their ego projected. They will feel rage vicariously as if they were the ones being robbed of their dignity and dig in further.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds hilarious.

More seriously, these people are lost. There is little purpose in trying to convert them, anyone hanging onto Trump now is either so incredibly ignorant we should just try to stem their paint-chip eating habit, so stupid they shouldn't be allowed to order appetizers unsupervised, or basically just fantastically bad, as in "I don't care if the world burns as long as I make a tidy sum before we collectively have to close up shop."

[–] stewie3128@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

I've taken to publically shaming my maga family members into temporary Facebook silence. It's cathartic after a particularly frustrating work day.

They always bounce back to their old form after not-too-long, which just provides another opportunity to catharticallly wail on them.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"These people" are a fairly large percent of the country. Certainly enough to get him elected again. Wailing about them being lost, ignorant, and stupid doesn't change that fact. Ignore them at your own peril.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's not that they're a particularly large portion of the country, it's that they have outsized power thanks to the electoral college and it's easier to disenfranchise dem voters. I'm not wailing about them, so much as stating fact. If 4 years of the chaos of Trump, cozying up to dictators, the million+ dead from COVID that didn't need to happen, the complete tanking of the economy and causing rampant inflation, an attempted coup/insurrection, many of his own staff saying he's not fit, Fox News turning against him (privately, but those texts all got released, thanks Dominion), a rape conviction, a fraud conviction, him spilling military secrets on tape, him stealing and attempting to hide classified docs, and now the likelihood that he's going to likely be jailed or under house arrest while trying to campaign for president, if all of that isn't enough to convince someone to not vote for Trump, what will?

The point of the comment was essentially don't bother with these people, the only answer is to vote dem in '24, and get as many people as you can to do the same. Things are stacked towards Republicans by nature of the system, you can ignore trying to change these people's minds because idk anything will at this point, but you can't sit it out or not vote dem this time around.

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[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol, they would, too! And then, like King's and Mandela's followers, they'd ~~peacefully march with signs saying 'Free my president, Li'l Donny!~~ probably start shooting people in vengeance because it's clearly the end of times and Joe Biden is the anti-Christ apparent.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought obama was the antichrist apparent

And clinton

And the other clin - no wait she was pedo queen

[–] silverbax@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I remember many years ago - while Clinton was still president - some idiot I knew said Hillary Clinton was the anti-christ and I started listing all of the people over the years they'd called the anti-christ at various times, then I asked them, 'doesn't the Bible say the anti-christ would be beloved by the masses?'

They replied with, 'well...maybe'.

I said, 'it does, and if you actually read that book you'd know that.'

These people are just children, not credible adults, walking around saying idiotic nonsense and we need to start calling them out until they shut the fuck up in shame.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He already compared himself to Mandela.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think some wag already said they'd be fine with the comparison - throw him in prison for 27 years.

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we get the universe where he dies in prison?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'd be okay with calling him Mandela if he gets 27 years.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

He’s going to live to 102 or something?

[–] ceiphas@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

as his followers go, he even might compare himself to good ol' Adolf and the maga crowd will cheer...

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope that doesn't deter people from wanting him punished, because that fact alone shows why punishment is so important. It's about something greater than the provincial minds of petty little men who only care about themselves. It's about ensuring reality does not work in their favor. It's about creating the just world.

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[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And don’t you guys have like… rich people jail in the states? Where he can play golf n shit?

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Oh well. Still, do it.

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He also called James a racist again so I see a $25k fine coming Monday

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, James isn't court staff. The judge already said. Otherwise trumps peekaboo comment would have been 20k I think.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just read in the news that Afroman calling a cop a lesbian was proceeding to trial for the emotional damage caused, yet trump can say these things without consequence?!

[–] yuriy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

well cops are a protected class above judges, i’m pretty sure that’s in the bible somewhere

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

They need to seize any assets being given by the rubes that help offset this, AND raise the fines to the point where it actually hurts him.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Nah, for some reason this defendant gets to trash the judges all he wants, no consequences.

He's never ever going to get contempt of court.

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[–] squiblet@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I sure do hate his usage of 'quotation marks' and Capital Letters.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Well how else would "you" know what the Big Important Words were?

[–] viperex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's allowed to go after the judge, just not the judge's staff

[–] UnspecificGravity@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's actually illegal to threaten a federal judge whether you have a gag order or not, but yeah, this falls short of that. He needs to be very careful about "going after a judge", which isn't advice that most people need to hear, but here we are.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopping onto social media to bash the guy that decides the future of your entire business empire is a really bold choice

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

It makes his base believe all of this is a total fraud, Dump knows he's guilty and is fucked. His only recourse will be angering his base enough to attack the courts.