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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t we already have ample data to support that? Like, what could we learn that would make a difference? I’m not being facetious, I’m honestly asking.

in an ideal world, what would move the needle?

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Data is data. A guy being interviewed about how he came to his plan, the setbacks he had, what his goals were, etc.

Like, are the victims just dumb luck because he originally intended a different plan that could have had higher casualties?

A deader body is also easier to sweep under the rug, can’t happen again cause we caught him, etc etc. No worries about further court dates, or him talking about his love for guns…

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, I get that. My career was like 80% data.

You also have to know when to stop wasting time collecting data and start spending that energy on solutions, because the data becomes redundant.

We’ve got soooooo much data on what motivates people; we’ve got excruciatingly intricate data on exactly how and why they do these things. We know which solutions are likely to work and which definitely don’t.

We need to stop endlessly analysing and start fixing this shit. We know what’s broken, so let’s stop talking about what and why and how, and start implementing solutions, like now.

The problem is there’s little public will to fix things – little ability to see these as preventable tragedies – and too much looking and hoping and denying.

Don’t worry though – there are another couple of hundred people waking up today who will be dead next month and over whose corpses we can continue this debate. I really hope nobody reading this comment will be one of them.

(Sorry for the snark; I’m beyond exhausted with this.)

[–] Zevlen 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You didn't get down 👇 voted so probably no one's offended. I totally agree with You btw. And I just wanted to add this; I think our government and corporations should fix this shit ASAP. But I don't think 🤔 "We the people" can do much about it if politicians don't listen to our outcry for better gun control policies

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m just on edge, so I’m preemptively apologising for my snark.

‘We the people’ elect those politicians, so yes, ‘we the people’ can do something about it.

And that’s the least we can do. There’s very rarely an actual public outcry over these things. This one was weird because he evaded capture for a while. They usually either shoot themselves on the scene or are captured within hours.

[–] Zevlen 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I believe majority of Americans want stricter gun laws. So why are the politicians that the people voted in not doing anything about it (then)?

Same way I believe that majority of Americans want affordable education, housing, medical care, ETC...

Why doesn't the government (whether Republican or Democrat run government) do much about it, or why are they never able to fix the issues?

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

That, detective, is the right question.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Fear is profitable.