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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's exactly what they voted for... including the no recourse part. That's what republicans do, this isn't a surprise.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s exactly what they voted for…

collectively, yes--and there are consequences which flow from that, yes, at least for some offices.[^1] but in Texas alone there are five million people, before non-voters and third party voters, who voted for Biden. i'm pretty sure those people don't deserve to suffer just because slightly more people in their state voted for a ghoul.

[^1]: Texas is of course quite gerrymandered, so "vote them out" is not exactly a universal option for people.

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even the people who did vote for this and othwr idiocy don't deserve to die in the cold for their mistakes. They deserve to live, as anyone does, and they deserve the chance to learn from their mistakes.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

yeah, that's the corollary here: the fact that there are consequences for doing a dumb thing doesn't mean people should inherently suffer for doing the dumb thing.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republican actions have prevented a number of people from voting over the years, and a shockingly small number of people choose to vote even when they can. If people would just get off their asses, Texas politics would be turned on its head. Here's some quick google results:

On December 17, 2020, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republicans, and 41% as Independent.

In Texas, 45.7% of the 17.7 million registered voters cast ballots in the 2022 midterm election. That's 7.3 percentage points lower than the state's total turnout in 2018 but higher than in every other midterm election in the last 20 years.

[In the 2022] At least 18,000 Texas mail-in votes were rejected in the first election under new GOP voting rules

[–] wagesj45@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

makes me think that the people who don't vote are pretty happy with how things are going.

[–] rammer@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or they are unable to vote. Since there are so many hurdles they have to overcome to be able to vote.

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Even just somethingike working two jobs, or working while in college, or being a single parent, or being tasked with unpaid care work (e.g. taking care of a sick parent for free, and also still having to work your regular job for pay), and so on can do it, even aside from the obvious vote oppression efforts.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or they've been beaten into submission to believe their vote doesn't matter. I guess that's what happens when you live under an oppressive government.

[–] wagesj45@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

this is true. i lived in a very red state for most my life, and always felt my vote didn't matter. i went through the motions of voting, but didn't feel i would have a real impact. i did it because i felt a sense of civic duty, but I'm a white cis dude so i didn't feel the effects like someone else might so i cant blame them if they don't feel that same sense of duty.